[cheekopekman]

You got keep in touch with those you converted?  After sales service also must follow up...who knows...the whole family also converted...

This is why Islam is always lacking behind Christianity because they do not do Dawah...partly due to the lack of funds from the masjids

Let the church there follow up with them lah!  Paul only wrote epistles to those churches he had planted lah!

[pinkpanther]

God referred to Israel as “His people” (Deuteronomy 7:6); His “treasured possession” (Psalm 135:4), and even the “apple of His eye” (Zechariah 2:8).

From Deuteronomy 7:6-10, we know that God did not choose Israel because they were strong or mighty. In fact, God chose Israel when they were small and weak, a people without a land.

Why does Allah impose continued suffering upon Jews if all the 3 religions worship the same God?

Sahih al-Bukhari 558
Narrated Abu Musa:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "The example of Muslims, Jews and Christians is like the example of a man who employed laborers to work for him from morning till night. They worked till midday and they said, 'We are not in need of your reward.' So the man employed another batch and said to them, 'Complete the rest of the day and yours will be the wages I had fixed (for the first batch). They worked until the time of the `Asr prayer and said, 'Whatever we have done is for you.' He employed another batch. They worked for the rest of the day till sunset, and they received the wages of the two former batches."

: “Judgement Day will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews. The Jews will hide behind the stones and the trees, and the stones and the trees will say, oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew hiding behind me — come and kill him.”

[cheekopekman]

God referred to Israel as “His people” (Deuteronomy 7:6); His “treasured possession” (Psalm 135:4), and even the “apple of His eye” (Zechariah 2:8).

From Deuteronomy 7:6-10, we know that God did not choose Israel because they were strong or mighty. In fact, God chose Israel when they were small and weak, a people without a land. 

Why does Allah impose continued suffering upon Jews if all the 3 religions worship the same God?

Sahih al-Bukhari 558
Narrated Abu Musa:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "The example of Muslims, Jews and Christians is like the example of a man who employed laborers to work for him from morning till night. They worked till midday and they said, 'We are not in need of your reward.' So the man employed another batch and said to them, 'Complete the rest of the day and yours will be the wages I had fixed (for the first batch). They worked until the time of the `Asr prayer and said, 'Whatever we have done is for you.' He employed another batch. They worked for the rest of the day till sunset, and they received the wages of the two former batches."

: “Judgement Day will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews. The Jews will hide behind the stones and the trees, and the stones and the trees will say, oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew hiding behind me — come and kill him.”

Just as the Israelites were God's chosen people so we Christians are disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ lah!

[cheekopekman]

So long ago your only mission trip ?

Just 1 example lah!  Of course there were more and many more to come lah!

[cheekopekman]

I have never came across a melayu church...
If you convert Marina...I think her father will come after you

Will be in world news Liao

Those Malay Muslims converted to Christianity are infiltrated into the mosques to convert more lah!  That's a strategy lah!

[pinkpanther]

Those Malay Muslims converted to Christianity are infiltrated into the mosques to convert more lah!  That's a strategy lah!

Just build a mosque but inside all Christian Malays

[pinkpanther]

1. **Surah Al-Mulk (67:5)** states:
   - "And We have certainly beautified the nearest heaven with stars and have made from them what is thrown at the devils and have prepared for them the punishment of the Blaze."

2. **Surah Al-Jinn (72:8-9)** mentions:
   - "And we [the jinn] sought to reach the heaven, but we found it filled with strong guards and burning flames. And we used to sit therein in positions for hearing, but whoever listens now will find a flame lying in wait for him."

These verses illustrate a cosmic battle in which divine forces use celestial phenomena—like shooting stars—to thwart and punish devils (or jinn), who might try to eavesdrop on divine decrees.

[cheekopekman]

Just build a mosque but inside all Christian Malays

While others are calling out Allah they are calling out Lord Jesus lah!  Still bowing and kneeling down with hands opened lah!

[pinkpanther]

While others are calling out Allah they are calling out Lord Jesus lah!  Still bowing and kneeling down with hands opened lah!

Go in moslem come out christian lah... hallelujah 

[Ali Imran]

The only basis for salvation is the work of Jesus in and through His life, death, and resurrection, and the only means to salvation is trust in Him. The good news of the gospel is that based on nothing we have done and everything Jesus has done - by His grace alone, through faith alone in Him - God will declare us right before Him. In this way, the gospel frees us from any and every attempt to earn God's acceptance through our work.

What if a man only follows the teachings of Jesus but not Paul? This means that he doesn't believe what you believe pertains to salvation.

[S I M T A N]

I think it's easier for a child to obey his father whom he can see than God who is invisible lah!  You need faith to obey God lah!

I even shared the gospel to kids n they accepted Christ 
Age  around 4 years old plus not even 7 years old 
Hallelujah

One of the things we learn is that God is Spirit (John 4:24). He's omnipresent, present everywhere all the time, existing everywhere simultaneously, and can commune with us on a one-to-one basis. Yes, God is all that; He's as personal with you and me as He is with everyone of His children who can be in His presence all the time no matter where they're. That's how big God is.

We can get acquainted with God in the intimacy of a Father-child relationship, not just in the awesome fact of His greatness. I told the moslem a while back that we would approach God and take His Word in childlike faith and simplicity, adding that the essential truths of the gospel are simple enough for a 7-year-old to understand them; a 7-year-old can often understand better than a grown-up can. He disagreed, saying we should read and examine doctrines using our God-given brains and intellect, something the Muslims are wont to do. To him accepting doctrines with 'blind faith' is the height of folly. I understand his situation since Allah is an impersonal God.

The God of the Bible offers mankind a personal relationship of great intimacy. That's not the case in Islam, which has no fatherly concept of God. To most Muslims, Allah is seen more as a remote judge who isn't personally involved with mankind. Islam isn't about fellowship with God, but service, submission, and allegiance to God. Let me expand on the issue from the Christain perspective in the second person:

You must realise that you're a spirit; you have a soul, and you live in a body (1 Thess 5:23). You become acquainted with God through your spirit, not with your mind or body. You can't understand God with your intellect. That's what's wrong with the world today. People have tried to understand God and the things of God by what they hear, what they see, what they read, or by their emotions. That's why you see empty words with no power and no supernatural manifestations, all because people are trying to understand God with the intellect.

Some talk about God and stuff like that, but they're explaining it from a theological standpoint. You'll never know God from them or from theological books. You'll know something about God, but you'll never know God personally or mystically until your spirit comes in contact with God's Spirit. It's your spirit, not your mind, that has to be in full contact with God. That's where the real knowledge of God takes place - in your spirit or heart, not just in your mind or intellect. That's why God created man. He created man to have someone to fellowship with - someone to give His inheritance to. That's what the Bible teaches. God said in Genesis 1:26, "Let us make man in our image." He made man to fellowship with Him.

[S I M T A N]

What if a man only follows the teachings of Jesus but not Paul? This means that he doesn't believe what you believe pertains to salvation.

May I remind you that no item of Christain belief can be considered in isolation. Different doctrines are interconnected, each affecting a number of others or being affected by them. You read certain scriptures out of context and try to build doctrine on them. But you can't build doctrine on scriptures taken out of context.

[pinkpanther]

What if a man only say the shahada but leftout Muhammad? Does this means that there is no assurance of salvation?

[pinkpanther]

(3:18) Allah bears witness that there is no god but He (Allah), and so do the angels and those endowed with knowledge, standing firm in justice. There is no other god but He, The Almighty, The Most Wise.

“God bears witness that there is no other god but He”: In other words, “those endowed with knowledge” among humans and jinns (for whom the Quran is intended) are commanded to do the same and say, “I bear witness that there is no other god but God” (أَشْهَدُ أَنْ لَا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا ٱللَّٰهُ = “ash hadu an lâ elaha elâ Allah”). Claiming that we need to add anything to what God Himself commanded would amount to claiming that His word is incomplete. On the contrary, the Quran proclaims that it is complete and fully detailed (6:114, 7:52, 10:37).

Therefore, the second part of the shahada found in Sunni and Shia Islam that claims that we have to add “and I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of God” (وَأَشْهَدُ أَنَّ مُحَمَّدًا رَسُولُ ٱللَّٰهِ = “wa ash hadu anna Muhammadan rasulullah”) is not part of the shahada specified in the Quran, and therefore it is not part of Islam.pm

[pinkpanther]

1.4 God commands: “do not call upon anyone beside God”

وَأَنَّ ٱلْمَسَٰجِدَ لِلَّهِ فَلَا تَدْعُوا۟ مَعَ ٱللَّهِ أَحَدًا

(72:18) Mosques belong to God; Therefore, do not call upon anyone beside God.

Unfortunately, in virtually all mosques throughout the world, Muhammad is consistently mentioned along with God in the call to prayer and at the end of ritual prayers when people recite their tashahud, thus breaking the admonition in verse 72:18 not to call upon anyone beside God. 

We even frequently see on the walls of mosques calligraphy of the name of Muhammad written right next to God. In addition, Sunnis believe that Muhammad will intercede on behalf of Muslims on judgment day, which is a pagan belief based on “hadiths other than God and His verses” (45:6).

 Before we prove that the Quran overwhelmingly condemns such a belief, let us examine some hadiths that support the belief in “the great intercession” of Muhammad on the day of resurrection:

Sahih al-Bukhari 4718

Narrated by Ibn `Umar:

On the Day of Resurrection, the people will fall on their knees and every nation will follow their prophet and they will say, “O so-and-so! Intercede (for us with Allah), “untill (the right) intercession is given to the Prophet (Muhammad) and that will be the day when Allah will raise him into a station of praise and glory (i.e. Al-Maqam -al-Mahmud).

Sahih al-Bukhari 1474, 1475

Narrated by `Abdullah bin `Umar:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, “A man keeps on asking others for something until he comes on the Day of Resurrection without any piece of flesh on his face.” The Prophet (ﷺ) added, “On the Day of Resurrection, the Sun will come near (to the people) to such an extent that the sweat will reach up to the middle of the ears, so, when all the people are in that state, they will ask Adam for help, and then Moses, and then Muhammad (p.b.u.h) .”The sub-narrator added “Muhammad will intercede with Allah to judge amongst the people. He will proceed until he will hold the ring of the door (of Paradise) and then Allah will exalt him to Maqam Mahmud (the privilege of intercession, etc.). And all the people of the gathering will send their praises to Allah.

[pinkpanther]

In addition, the Quran forbids to quote Holy Scriptures out of context:

فَبِمَا نَقْضِهِم مِّيثَٰقَهُمْ لَعَنَّٰهُمْ وَجَعَلْنَا قُلُوبَهُمْ قَٰسِيَةً يُحَرِّفُونَ ٱلْكَلِمَ عَن

مَّوَاضِعِهِۦ وَنَسُوا۟ حَظًّا مِّمَّا ذُكِّرُوا۟ بِهِۦ وَلَا تَزَالُ تَطَّلِعُ عَلَىٰ خَآئِنَةٍ

مِّنْهُمْ إِلَّا قَلِيلًا مِّنْهُمْ فَٱعْفُ عَنْهُمْ وَٱصْفَحْ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يُحِبُّ ٱلْمُحْسِنِينَ

(5:13) Thus, as a result of their breaking their covenant, we cursed them (the children of Israel) and We hardened their hearts: They alter the words [of God] from their context and forgot part of what they were reminded of it [the Torah]; you will not cease to unveil their treachery, except for a few of them. So, forgive them and ignore [them]. Indeed, God loves those who do good deeds.

Adding the expression “Muhammad rasulullah” (“Muhammad is the messenger of God”) present in 48:29 to the Quranic shahada (“There is no other god but God”) found in 37:35 and 47:19 is distorting God’s word because it ignores its context and violates its spirit.

In addition, imagine how Muhammad used to end his prayers reciting the tashahud: Would it have made any sense for him to say “I bear witness that there is no other god but God, the one he has no partners, and I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of God” as commonly found in Sunni Islam?

Muhammad knew full well that he was the messenger of God, which is reminiscent of the fact that God rebukes the hypocrites in 63:1 by saying that “God knows full well that you are His messenger, and God bears witness that the hypocrites are patented liars”. It is obvious that he did not utter such words because they conflict in many ways with the letter and spirit of many Quranic verses, and because it would have been absurd for him to “bear witness that he is the messenger of God”. Finally, the following question comes to mind: Would it make sense for believers to recite a different tashahud from the one the prophet used to recite in his prayers? Obviously not. Isn’t the prophet supposed to be a good example for us (33:21)? Then why recite words inspired from hadiths written down 200 years after the death of the prophet which would have made no sense for him to recite?

[pinkpanther]

When Muhammad prays to Allah...does he include his own name in the shahada?  if no

then why are moslems changing how he prays by including his name.....shirk and bidah!

[pinkpanther]

We find numerous testimonies of faith similar to the Quranic one in previous Holy Scriptures, and none of them ever mentions the name of any prophet or anyone else next to God. Here are some examples:

(Deuteronomy 4:35) To you it was shown that you might know that the Lord, He is God; there is no other besides Him.

(Deuteronomy 32:39) ‘See now that I, I am He, And there is no god besides Me;

(Psalm 86:10) For You are great and do wondrous deeds; You alone are God.

(Isaiah 44:6) “Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:

‘I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God besides Me.

(Isaiah 45:5) I am the Lord, and there is no other. There is no other God besides me. I will strengthen you, although you don’t know me.

(1 Timothy 1:17) Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.

(Mark 12:32) The scribe said to Him, “Right, Teacher; You have truly stated that He is One, and there is no one else besides Him.

Never do we find in the Bible that a particular messenger or prophet is to be mentioned next to God when it comes to bearing witness to His Oneness. The message of the Holy Quran is exactly the same: No one is ever mentioned by name next to God in a situation in which one bears witness to God or is commanded to believe in God:

But you moslems have committed Shirk and Bidah by adding the prophet name in the shahada and prayer to God

[pinkpanther]

I hold the belief that Allah is the only God, and I understand that including Muhammad in the same prayer could be considered Shirk. Therefore, I have decided to reject Islam because I do not wish to go to hell...but again Islamic hell is temporary and everyone goes to heaven eventually....

[Lukongsimi]

I hold the belief that Allah is the only God, and I understand that including Muhammad in the same prayer could be considered Shirk. Therefore, I have decided to reject Islam because I do not wish to go to hell...but again Islamic hell is temporary and everyone goes to heaven eventually....

That moslem should question his own belief instead of attacking ours which is the correct path

[pinkpanther]

That moslem should question his own belief instead of attacking ours which is the correct path

You're correct..his house is in a bigger mess.. yet he still feel the need to interfere in other people's business...

[Lukongsimi]

You're correct..his house is in a bigger mess.. yet he still feel the need to interfere in other people's business...

that is why he ignore u no answers to defend his religion
We ignore him cos he asked same questions all the time even answers were given
Like a broken record very annoying!
The other one gone with the wind?

[Ali Imran]

that is why he ignore u no answers to defend his religion
We ignore him cos he asked same questions all the time even answers were given
Like a broken record very annoying!
The other one gone with the wind?

If you have any questions about Islam, I'd be happy to help you find the answers.

[Lukongsimi]

No point u follow
And worship a man born with earthly father

[Ali Imran]

May I remind you that no item of Christain belief can be considered in isolation. Different doctrines are interconnected, each affecting a number of others or being affected by them. You read certain scriptures out of context and try to build doctrine on them. But you can't build doctrine on scriptures taken out of context.

We cannot follow both Jesus and Paul simultaneously. So how?

[Ali Imran]

No point u follow
And worship a man born with earthly father

Come learn about Islam. The first thing you need to know is that there is only 1 who is worthy of worship, the almighty Creator of the heavens and the earth.

[Lukongsimi]

No way I betray my belief and follow something I not familiar with
It’s like ownself jump into the fire thinking paradise is there

[Ali Imran]

No way I betray my belief and follow something I not familiar with
It’s like ownself jump into the fire thinking paradise is there

I am not asking you to betray anybody or anything.

Learn. The truth can be found through learning.

[Lukongsimi]

Christianity is about Jesus the savior
We follow him and the Bible is our daily bread
The moslem follow muh and his hilarious teachings

[Lukongsimi]

The truth is not in the Koran or Hadith
It’s in the Bible
If u go and read the Koran might get pocessed by jinn?