[Lukongsimi]

Lunch. I wanna take a picture of my lunch but I don't want to how lian.

Now then u know how to take pics
Nasi lemak what to how Lian?

[pinkpanther]

Islam has been in practise by many billions of Muslims over 1,400+ years already.

You Pink come along and say billions of Muslims have been wrong all this while.

Really? You think you're smarter than billions of Muslims?

You haven't answer my question 

Can I be a moslem without saying the 2nd part of the shahada" Muhammad is His messenger"

[Ali Imran]

U also not smarter than billions of Christians  who arrived 600 years earlier 😂

Yes, of course.

I'm definitely not smarter than 1 Christian. His name was Michael Servetus, a theologian and a doctor. He studied the Bible and he concluded that the Trinity is false. He was burned at the stake by a Trinitarian Christian by the name of John Calvin.

There are many Christians who rejected the Trinity.

[Ali Imran]

You haven't answer my question 

Can I be a moslem without saying the 2nd part of the shahada" Muhammad is His messenger"

I cannot say yes or no in general but in your case, I'd say no, your faith will be rejected because, no one comes to God except through the Prophet God sent.

[Ali Imran]

Now then u know how to take pics
Nasi lemak what to how Lian?

It's my wife's cooking.

Btw, I always order the nasi lemak from one warong nearby. It is so delicious, very authentic.

[pinkpanther]

I cannot say yes or no in general but in your case, I'd say no, your faith will be rejected because, no one comes to God except through the Prophet God sent.

Can I be a moslem by saying "There is no god but God (Allah)" and exclude the 2nd part of the shahada?

[Ali Imran]

Can I be a moslem by saying "There is no god but God (Allah)" and exclude the 2nd part of the shahada?

Already answered.

[pinkpanther]

Already answered.

So the condition to become a moslem is to acknowledge Allah and Muhammad tio boh?

[Ali Imran]

So the condition to become a moslem is to acknowledge Allah and Muhammad tio boh?

Not tio.

You have to be more precise. It must be like in John 17:3, Allah is the only God, and Muhammad is the messenger sent by Allah.

[pinkpanther]

Not tio.

You have to be more precise. It must be like in John 17:3, Allah is the only God, and Muhammad is the messenger sent by Allah.

John 17:3 is not our declaration.

There are 2 parts to your shahada ..you cannot be a moslem unless you acknowledge Muhammad...that is associating partners with God...because believing in one God alone is not enough to make you a moslem..you also need to acknowledge His creation.. Muhammad

[Ali Imran]

John 17:3 is not our declaration.

There are 2 parts to your shahada ..you cannot be a moslem unless you acknowledge Muhammad...that is associating partners with God...because believing in one God alone is not enough to make you a moslem..you also need to acknowledge His creation.. Muhammad

John 17:3 is Jesus's declaration for eternal life.

[Ali Imran]

John 17:3 is not our declaration.

There are 2 parts to your shahada ..you cannot be a moslem unless you acknowledge Muhammad...that is associating partners with God...because believing in one God alone is not enough to make you a moslem..you also need to acknowledge His creation.. Muhammad

So you're saying billions of Muslims, since 1,400+ years ago, including all the learned scholars, got it wrong, and they were all associating partners with God, and they are all in hellfire now.

Ok noted.

[pinkpanther]

John 17:3 is Jesus's declaration for eternal life.

 it is likely "Eternal Life: Knowing God and Jesus"
It is not a declaration lah ..

Anyway, it is not appropriate for Allah to become a man, but it is fitting for Allah to instruct Moslems to praise His creation, Muhammad? 

[pinkpanther]

So you're saying billions of Muslims, since 1,400+ years ago, including all the learned scholars, got it wrong, and they were all associating partners with God, and they are all in hellfire now.

Ok noted.

Not all agreed with your view ..some believe it was a political move to add his own name to the Shahada..

[Ali Imran]

Not all agreed with your view ..some believe it was a political move to add his own name to the Shahada..

Who said that?

[Lukongsimi]

It's my wife's cooking.

Btw, I always order the nasi lemak from one warong nearby. It is so delicious, very authentic.

Oh I see 
Malay is delicious 
But now I scared to eat

[pinkpanther]

Who said that?

It can only be political because it doesn't make spiritual sense in so many ways..when the One God is the Lone God and no other should share a pillar with him.

[Lukongsimi]

Not tio.

You have to be more precise. It must be like in John 17:3, Allah is the only God, and Muhammad is the messenger sent by Allah.

John 17:3 where got Muhammad ?

[Ali Imran]

It can only be political because it doesn't make spiritual sense in so many ways..when the One God is the Lone God and no other should share a pillar with him.

So it is your opinion?

Ok noted.

[Ali Imran]

Oh I see 
Malay is delicious 
But now I scared to eat

Malay food is rich. That is why it is not healthy.

[Lukongsimi]

Yes, of course.

I'm definitely not smarter than 1 Christian. His name was Michael Servetus, a theologian and a doctor. He studied the Bible and he concluded that the Trinity is false. He was burned at the stake by a Trinitarian Christian by the name of John Calvin.

There are many Christians who rejected the Trinity.

Doesn’t mean someone said false it’s false lah
Got to be from the mouth of God not man.

[Lukongsimi]

Malay food is rich. That is why it is not healthy.

Partly 

I saw titok a food seller Malay declared she put witchcraft into food to make people come back for more.
Hope it’s not true but scared lah
Ever saw Indian shop owner smoked his items
He worshiped his idol saw me his things drops n a bit scared.
No more go to his shop

[Ali Imran]

Doesn’t mean someone said false it’s false lah
Got to be from the mouth of God not man.

It's not just one man.  I only highlight him because he was an intellectual.

We do not know the number of early followers of Jesus who rejected the Trinity. They were persecuted for rejecting the Trinity.

Today, the numbers are growing again.

[Lukongsimi]

It's not just one man.  I only highlight him because he was an intellectual.

We do not know the number of early followers of Jesus who rejected the Trinity. They were persecuted for rejecting the Trinity.

Today, the numbers are growing again.

If people said your religion is false u also agree?

[Lukongsimi]

Christianity is about relationships with God
Not a religion about what u read meditate fast pray..
u feel he is around
If u feel nothing prostrate ten times a day pray got use?

[Ali Imran]

If people said your religion is false u also agree?

If only 1 uninformed or unlearned person says it, we can dismiss it, like what Pink is doing now.

[Lukongsimi]

If only 1 uninformed or unlearned person says it, we can dismiss it, like what Pink is doing now.

He knows better than u that is true ..lol

[pinkpanther]

So it is your opinion?

Ok noted.

Yes...I speak for me, myself and I...that's a Trinity for you

[Ali Imran]

If u feel nothing prostrate ten times a day pray got use?

Some Muslims can see God and prostrate before Him.

As for me, I believe God can see me and I prostrate before Him.

[Ali Imran]

He knows better than u that is true ..lol

If you say so.