[Ali Imran]

How come Christians were be headed by moslems ?

What was the case? We need context. If a judge, after a trial, sentenced some people to death, the usual mode of execution in the olden days was beheading.

[Lukongsimi]

That is from their merciful God..."no money go mati"

Some more that Moslem wanted   to scam me follow their religion 

[Lukongsimi]

What was the case? We need context. If a judge, after a trial, sentenced some people to death, the usual mode of execution in the olden days was beheading.

This happened recently 
Moslems Can suka suka behead Christians?

[Ali Imran]

It is a claim that some Jews, maybe even many Jews, misinterpreted the text of Torah and ignored parts of Torah. It is not a claim that the text of Torah was itself corrupted. And the Quran can't make that claim, because it also claims to confirm the Torah repeatedly

But I don't think you want to claim that the text of the Torah is corrupted, because that would invalidate your own religion by both the text of the Quran and authentic Hadith.

That Hadith you quoted earlier, have been rejected as weak by Sunan Abu Dawood.

But even so, we need to be clear what was being put infront of the Prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم, like which book they placed there. 

When the Quran states, clearly, that they wrote verses with their own hand, and claim it is divine, what do you expect us to say except to say they have corrupted the scripture, the Torah.

Even Jeremiah 8:8 confirms the corruption, citing the "scribes with the lying pen".

[Ali Imran]

This happened recently 
Moslems Can suka suka behead Christians?

If they kill with justification, with a judge passing the sentence, I don't see anything wrong with it.

But if they kill without justification, they are murderers.

[Lukongsimi]

If they kill with justification, with a judge passing the sentence, I don't see anything wrong with it.

But if they kill without justification, they are murderers.

U are heartless !

[Ali Imran]

Some more that Moslem wanted   to scam me follow their religion 

Why are you so gullible?

You think your friend Pink knows what he is talking about?

After I have given him an explanation, he resorted to ad hominem but he didn't present any argument to counter my explanation. And then, he made such heinous comments about Islam, a statement of hate.

[Ali Imran]

U are heartless !

LOL

Why? Please tell me.

[Lukongsimi]

According to field sources, at around 4am last Thursday (13 February) suspected militants from the Allied Democratic Forces (ADF) – a group with ties to so-called Islamic State (IS) – approached homes in Mayba in the territory of Lubero, saying: “Get out, get out and don’t make any noise.” Many Christian men and women came out and were captured.

Shaken by this incident, people from the local community in Mayba later gathered to work out how to release those held captive. However, ADF militants surrounded the village and captured many more believers.

All of those kidnapped were taken to a Protestant church in Kasanga where they were tragically killed.

Muhindo Musunzi, director of the Kombo primary school [which belongs to the CECA20 church], says that prior to this incident, churches, schools and health centres had all shut their doors because of the chaotic security situation. “We had to move all activities towards Vunying,” he said.

Field sources report that, until yesterday Tuesday 18 February, some families had not been able to bury their dead because of insecurity in the area. Many Christians have now fled the area for their safety.

[Ali Imran]

U are heartless !

When I said you're heartless, it is because you justified the killing of children and infants. 

Anybody who justify the killing of children and infants is heartless.

So tell me why you say I am heartless.

[pinkpanther]

That Hadith you quoted earlier, have been rejected as weak by Sunan Abu Dawood.

But even so, we need to be clear what was being put infront of the Prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم, like which book they placed there. 

When the Quran states, clearly, that they wrote verses with their own hand, and claim it is divine, what do you expect us to say except to say they have corrupted the scripture, the Torah.

Even Jeremiah 8:8 confirms the corruption, citing the "scribes with the lying pen".

Nowhere in the Qurab will you find a verse where it says the Torah and Gospel got corrupted and this belief started rising among muslims when they started reading the Torah and Gospel and how it contradicted the Quran.

Muhammad and the early muslims never believed that the Scriptures of the Jews and Christians got corrupted and the Quran always speaks very highly about the Torah and Gospel:


Say: "O People of the Book! Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord" (5:71).

How can the Jew or Christian, stand fast by the Law and the Gospel, if the Law and the Gospel have been corrupted or abrogated?

[Ali Imran]

According to field sources, at around 4am last Thursday (13 February) suspected militants from the Allied Democratic Forces (ADF) – a group with ties to so-called Islamic State (IS) – approached homes in Mayba in the territory of Lubero, saying: “Get out, get out and don’t make any noise.” Many Christian men and women came out and were captured.

Shaken by this incident, people from the local community in Mayba later gathered to work out how to release those held captive. However, ADF militants surrounded the village and captured many more believers.

All of those kidnapped were taken to a Protestant church in Kasanga where they were tragically killed.

Muhindo Musunzi, director of the Kombo primary school [which belongs to the CECA20 church], says that prior to this incident, churches, schools and health centres had all shut their doors because of the chaotic security situation. “We had to move all activities towards Vunying,” he said.

Field sources report that, until yesterday Tuesday 18 February, some families had not been able to bury their dead because of insecurity in the area. Many Christians have now fled the area for their safety.

As I have clearly told you, if the killing is without justification, meaning no due process, then it is murder.

[Lukongsimi]

JAKARTA (Reuters) - An Indonesian Muslim man was accused in court on Wednesday of being the mastermind behind the beheading of three Christian girls last year in Central Sulawesi, a charge that could lead to death by firing squad if proven.
The attack took place in the Poso region of Central Sulawesi province, an area where deadly Muslim-Christian clashes broke out from 1998 to 2001, and where simmering violence continues. The trial was moved to Jakarta on security fears.

[Ali Imran]

Nowhere in the Qurab will you find a verse where it says the Torah and Gospel got corrupted and this belief started rising among muslims when they started reading the Torah and Gospel and how it contradicted the Quran.

Muhammad and the early muslims never believed that the Scriptures of the Jews and Christians got corrupted and the Quran always speaks very highly about the Torah and Gospel:


Say: "O People of the Book! Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord" (5:71).

How can the Jew or Christian, stand fast by the Law and the Gospel, if the Law and the Gospel have been corrupted or abrogated?

Did you check with our scholars what 5:71 means? Or did you read it yourself and think you know what it means?

We have discussed 5:71 before. But you being dishonest, wanna bring that up again, with the same misunderstanding of that verse.

I need to prepare to go to the mosque. Its Friday today.

[Lukongsimi]

[b]11/15/2024 Pakistan (International Christian Concern) — [/b]Earlier this month, a 6-year-old girl was raped by a Muslim security guard at her school in Lahore, Pakistan. 

The girl is from Faisla town B Block and attends a local private school, according to an International Christian Concern (ICC) staffer. Her family and members of the local Christian community said the staff member, named Husnain, sexually assaulted her because of her family’s Christian faith.  

When the girl returned home from school that day in late October, her family noticed blood stains on her clothes and bruises on her body. The girl shared what had happened and identified the school’s security guard, Husnain, as the attacker. She said that he had covered her mouth to silence her during the assault.  

The girl’s mother and father met with the school’s principal, who initially told them the girl had fallen. When the parents shared what their daughter had told them, the principal threatened them, saying they would face problems if they took any action.   

The girl received medical care at a local hospital. Her parents filed a complaint against Husnain at the local police station. Police later arrested him and are investigating the incident.  

[Ali Imran]

JAKARTA (Reuters) - An Indonesian Muslim man was accused in court on Wednesday of being the mastermind behind the beheading of three Christian girls last year in Central Sulawesi, a charge that could lead to death by firing squad if proven.
The attack took place in the Poso region of Central Sulawesi province, an area where deadly Muslim-Christian clashes broke out from 1998 to 2001, and where simmering violence continues. The trial was moved to Jakarta on security fears.

Yes, murderers will be given the death penalty in Islamic court.

Killing innocent Christian girls is abhorrent. It is outright murder.

[Lukongsimi]

Nearly 400 British girls as young as eleven are believed to have been sexually exploited by Muslim rape gangs in Oxfordshire over the past 15 years, according to a chilling new report. It charges local officials with repeatedly ignoring the abuse due to a "culture of denial."

The scale of the abuse in Oxfordshire, a county in southeast England, mirrors similarly shocking accounts of the sexual exploitation of white British girls by Muslim gangs in Bristol, Derby, Rochdale, Rotherham and Telford, and implies that the problem is not isolated, but endemic.

[pinkpanther]

Did you check with our scholars what 5:71 means? Or did you read it yourself and think you know what it means?

We have discussed 5:71 before. But you being dishonest, wanna bring that up again, with the same misunderstanding of that verse.

I need to prepare to go to the mosque. Its Friday today.

It didnt say that the original scriptures was corrupted..pls ask your Imam...who is correct about the Injil? Allah, Muhammad or you? Lol

[Ali Imran]

It didnt say that the original scriptures was corrupted..pls ask your Imam...who is correct about the Injil? Allah, Muhammad or you? Lol

All 3 is correct. You are wrong. LOL

[Hope]

https://youtube.com/shorts/G9PHugKAe0k?s...sFpT5Gw0y4

[Ali Imran]

Pay or be killed what kind of religion is this?
Cannot be from God

Either you're mistaken, or you are purposely lying about Islam.

If you're mistaken, I will gladly explain it to you. 

Please tell me, are you lying or mistaken?

[pinkpanther]

All 3 is correct. You are wrong. LOL

Pls ask the Imam, He might have a different answer 

So the Islamic dilemma continues

[Ali Imran]

Pls ask the Imam, He might have a different answer 

So the Islamic dilemma continues

That dilemma only exists in your head.

For us, we are clear. You don't have the original words of Jesus, the Injeel. You are only lying if you say you have it.

[pinkpanther]

That dilemma only exists in your head.

For us, we are clear. You don't have the original words of Jesus, the Injeel. You are only lying if you say you have it.

Oh then Allah is lying that the Injil is with the christians ...Muhammad is lying about the truth of the injil...only lord Zed speaks of the new convenant 

[pinkpanther]

That dilemma only exists in your head.

For us, we are clear. You don't have the original words of Jesus, the Injeel. You are only lying if you say you have it.

Sura 5:46 states that the Injil was given to Jesus by Allah. Sura 19:30 and 3:3 then clarify that the Injil is a book just as the Qur'an and the Torah are books that were sent down by Allah. These verses make clear that the Injil is the book of the Christians, the book that is with them and which they believe in.

But you said the Injil was never recorded and was never with the Christians.....

The curious case of Lord Zed 

So the Islamic dilemma continues 

[Lukongsimi]

Either you're mistaken, or you are purposely lying about Islam.

If you're mistaken, I will gladly explain it to you. 

Please tell me, are you lying or mistaken?

Don’t pretend u don’t know about your religion 
U lie n accuse us of lying 
u hypocrite liar !
https://youtu.be/gqqTuevDwag

[Ali Imran]

Sura 5:46 states that the Injil was given to Jesus by Allah. Sura 19:30 and 3:3 then clarify that the Injil is a book just as the Qur'an and the Torah are books that were sent down by Allah. These verses make clear that the Injil is the book of the Christians, the book that is with them and which they believe in.

But you said the Injil was never recorded and was never with the Christians.....

The curious case of Lord Zed 

So the Islamic dilemma continues 

The dilemma only exists if you can show me the words of Jesus, in his original language, without any interpolation by anybody. Can?

LOL

1. The Quran already made clear to us, way before your scholar Bruce Metzger found the corruptions in the NT, that they have manufactured verses and claim divinity. Woe to them for doing that.

2. Our prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم already made clear to us, that we are not to trust the books in the hands of the Christians and the Jews.

And you still wanna insist that we have a dilemma. LOL

It only exists in your head.

[Ali Imran]

Don’t pretend u don’t know about your religion 
U lie n accuse us of lying 
u hypocrite liar !
https://youtu.be/gqqTuevDwag

You're the liar who made statements about Islam that are false, since you don't want to admit you're mistaken.

Plus, you're heartless for justifying the killing of children and infants.

[Lukongsimi]

https://youtu.be/E1tYb9Bh4uY

Pay or perish!
What kind of religion is this?

[pinkpanther]

The dilemma only exists if you can show me the words of Jesus, in his original language, without any interpolation by anybody. Can?

LOL

1. The Quran already made clear to us, way before your scholar Bruce Metzger found the corruptions in the NT, that they have manufactured verses and claim divinity. Woe to them for doing that.

2. Our prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم already made clear to us, that we are not to trust the books in the hands of the Christians and the Jews.

And you still wanna insist that we have a dilemma. LOL

It only exists in your head.

We only have the OT and NT...there is nothing like the Injil that Islam claim was revealed to Jesus in a Book..I emphasize Book because it was written down just like the Quran ...

Nowhere in the Quran will you find a verse where it says the Torah and Gospel got corrupted and this belief started rising among muslims when they started reading the Torah and Gospel and how it contradicted the Quran.

And yes, the Islamic dilemma continues on one side, Allah and Muhammad, and on the other, our friend who has distorted and twisted the words of the Quran....

Why are you not following the teachings of the Quran