[Ali Imran]

Yes...I reiterate once again that scholars and theologians agree that Paul's teachings are in line with Jesus's teachings...

Your opinion mean nothing 

Jesus said to keep the commandments. 

Paul said no need.

If you still want to insist both are the same, I will let you be in your delusion.

[Ali Imran]

No, Paul did not teach that believers should completely discard the law. While he emphasized that salvation is by grace through faith and not by adherence to the law, he also affirmed the law's continuing value in revealing sin and guiding Christian behavior. He clarified that the law's purpose was not to save, but to point to the need for a savior and to guide believers in righteous living. 

So look at that Pink. Your friend already admitted that Paul's teaching is not the same as Jesus's teaching.

Jesus said salvation includes adherence to the Law.

So, going by your criteria, it wasn't Jesus who visited on the road to Damascus.

[Ali Imran]

My original point was that Muhammad allows lying... so please provide me with prophets who agree with Muhammad that lying is permissible....pls stay on point

I could care less about your stories...because you cannot provide one

So, the one who brags about being well-informed doesn't know the Bible has a story where a lie was ethically acceptable.

[pinkpanther]

So your Bible says you cannot lie in any circumstances?

What about saving your children's lives from evil people? Can you lie to do that?

Again the Bible consistently condemns lying as a sin and emphasizes the importance of truthfulness...
but your prophet allowed lying in 3 specific cases...... simply remarkable! But could someone unintentionally lie outside those three categories? Why not, since lying is already deemed permissible!

[pinkpanther]

Yeah.. of course. God in the Bible is also broke that He asks for a loan, if we want to use your standard of exegesis.

 you see how Islam affects your thinking and you can't differentiate a metaphor from a literal verse

Let's go with your sillyness that God is broke and he needs a loan

[pinkpanther]

So look at that Pink. Your friend already admitted that Paul's teaching is not the same as Jesus's teaching.

Jesus said salvation includes adherence to the Law.

So, going by your criteria, it wasn't Jesus who visited on the road to Damascus.

Lukongsimi Wrote:  
No, Paul did not teach that believers should completely discard the law. While he emphasized that salvation is by grace through faith and not by adherence to the law, he also affirmed the law's continuing value in revealing sin and guiding Christian behavior. He clarified that the law's purpose was not to save, but to point to the need for a savior and to guide believers in righteous living. 


Where did it says that Paul discarded Jesus's law?
It says that Paul affirmed the law!

in Romans 3:31, Paul states, "Do we then nullify the law by faith? Certainly not! Rather, we uphold the law." Similarly, in Romans 7:12, he describes the law as holy and righteous.

[pinkpanther]

So, the one who brags about being well-informed doesn't know the Bible has a story where a lie was ethically acceptable.

You misunderstand the issue. Muhammad made lying permissible...that is the problem..Please show me with a passage from the Bible that demonstrates any prophet, in a proper state of mind, instructing their followers that lying is acceptable... 

 In the Bible, there are a few instances where certain characters lied, such as Michal, and God punished her, with lying being one of the criteria involved.

[pinkpanther]

Jesus said to keep the commandments. 

Paul said no need.

If you still want to insist both are the same, I will let you be in your delusion.

Paul never say to discard Jesus's commandments
Paul's teachings complement and builds upon the teachings of Jesus....even scholars agree so the one who is deluded is you

[cheekopekman]

What situations? You didnt even give examples...blow hot air again?  show me that the bible supports lying

The fact is Muhammad discarded Jesus's teachings...He even permits lying and you are proud of it .

What happened to Ananias and his wife Sapphira when they lied to Apostle Peter about their offerings leh?  They were struck dead on the spot for lying to the Holy Spirit lah!

[Lukongsimi]

Lukongsimi Wrote:  
No, Paul did not teach that believers should completely discard the law. While he emphasized that salvation is by grace through faith and not by adherence to the law, he also affirmed the law's continuing value in revealing sin and guiding Christian behavior. He clarified that the law's purpose was not to save, but to point to the need for a savior and to guide believers in righteous living. 


Where did it says that Paul discarded Jesus's law?
It says that Paul affirmed the law!

in Romans 3:31, Paul states, "Do we then nullify the law by faith? Certainly not! Rather, we uphold the law." Similarly, in Romans 7:12, he describes the law as holy and righteous.

With the law it’s not enough we still need to reborn again of water n spirit in order to be saved 
Pachik cannot understand the Bible his Koran teaches differently

[Lukongsimi]

So look at that Pink. Your friend already admitted that Paul's teaching is not the same as Jesus's teaching.

Jesus said salvation includes adherence to the Law.

So, going by your criteria, it wasn't Jesus who visited on the road to Damascus.

U r clever in twisting words !

[Lukongsimi]

Now that pachik quoted my postings n then he deleted it why?
Quote it n ask for pink ‘s reply ?
🤣

[Lukongsimi]

Jesus said to keep the commandments. 

Paul said no need.

If you still want to insist both are the same, I will let you be in your delusion.

How about yourself do u keep the commandments ?
If not don’t add fuel to the fire !

[Lukongsimi]

https://youtube.com/shorts/uQx3sd86yIk?s...8aed2HSIn4

[Lukongsimi]

Why Muslim nations always at war?

https://youtu.be/WUgu2IKSVjo?si=ntjJ4EYiyb0Uqq3E

[pinkpanther]

U r clever in twisting words !

His roti prata skill is also very good

[Lukongsimi]

His roti prata skill is also very good

Nothing new lol

[Lukongsimi]

Yeah.. of course. God in the Bible is also broke that He asks for a loan, if we want to use your standard of exegesis.

Everything belongs to Yahweh he does not need to ask for a loan 
He created everything in heaven n on earth without a dime.

[Lukongsimi]

https://youtu.be/ZdZAaAHgzD0

[pinkpanther]

So look at that Pink. Your friend already admitted that Paul's teaching is not the same as Jesus's teaching.

Jesus said salvation includes adherence to the Law.

So, going by your criteria, it wasn't Jesus who visited on the road to Damascus.

In Romans 3:31, Paul is addressing the idea that faith in Christ nullifies the law. He emphatically answers, "No! On the contrary, we uphold the law"

So the answer is very clear! Don twist his words again.

[Ali Imran]

In Romans 3:31, Paul is addressing the idea that faith in Christ nullifies the law. He emphatically answers, "No! On the contrary, we uphold the law"

So the answer is very clear! Don twist his words again.

Everytime I ask Christians why they are no longer keeping the commandments, they will quote Paul.

Your friend LKSM, also understood Paul's teachings as such. Look at what he posted yesterday.

salvation is by grace through faith and not by adherence to the law, 

[Ali Imran]

Everything belongs to Yahweh he does not need to ask for a loan 
He created everything in heaven n on earth without a dime.

I agree 100%.

[Ali Imran]

How about yourself do u keep the commandments ?
If not don’t add fuel to the fire !

I try my best to keep the commandments. I try my best to keep the daily worship 5x a day, fast during Ramadan, pay the Zakah, etc.

[Ali Imran]

Again the Bible consistently condemns lying as a sin and emphasizes the importance of truthfulness...
but your prophet allowed lying in 3 specific cases...... simply remarkable! But could someone unintentionally lie outside those three categories? Why not, since lying is already deemed permissible!

So, will you lie to evil people if it means saving your children's lives?

[Ali Imran]

 you see how Islam affects your thinking and you can't differentiate a metaphor from a literal verse

Right back at you.

[pinkpanther]

Everytime I ask Christians why they are no longer keeping the commandments, they will quote Paul.

Your friend LKSM, also understood Paul's teachings as such. Look at what he posted yesterday.

Lksm is not wrong ..even Jesus emphasizes on faith..

In Luke 7:48-50, Jesus declares that a woman's sins are forgiven due to her faith, after she anoints his feet with oil

John, chapter 3, verse 16. It states: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

[Lukongsimi]

Everytime I ask Christians why they are no longer keeping the commandments, they will quote Paul.

Your friend LKSM, also understood Paul's teachings as such. Look at what he posted yesterday.

Read full chapter not half 
Eg Pachik go geylang 
And he went to the market
If I quote you went geylang n missed out the following words people will think of u went geylang find kok kok kai😂

[Ali Imran]

Paul never say to discard Jesus's commandments
Paul's teachings complement and builds upon the teachings of Jesus....even scholars agree so the one who is deluded is you

Do you proclaim the Shema twice a day?

[pinkpanther]

So, will you lie to evil people if it means saving your children's lives?

Inshallah and mashallah

[Lukongsimi]

I try my best to keep the commandments. I try my best to keep the daily worship 5x a day, fast during Ramadan, pay the Zakah, etc.

Cannot try u have to keep all 
U fail one u fail all
Better to believe n depends on Christ to save your soul from everlasting hell