Scripture readings for Christmas

(29-06-2025, 06:19 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  There are evil people, be they Muslims or Christians or Jews or Buddhists or whatever.

All lost to  muslims  Rotfl
Wild donkeys in bible

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(29-06-2025, 06:55 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Venezuela has the largest oil reserve n the country are Christians
Rotfl

Of the top 10 biggest oil reserves in the world today, how many belong to the Arabs?

Do you know who is always dropping bombs on Muslim countries in the world?
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(29-06-2025, 06:41 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Muhammad also followed Jesus's commandments lah...He loved his son's wife and took her as his wife...that is some love Big Grin

The love Jesus talked about in John 13:34-35 is NOT that kind of love lah! Big Grin Don't anyhow interpret God's Word lah! God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, Jesus, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life lah!
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(29-06-2025, 06:27 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  Not ALL Christians are the same lah, Ali! Big Grin Don't sweep all away lah! Those Jews who became Christians are still Jews so they still abide by the Torah or Law lah! But Jesus Christ taught all Christians to love one another and that's His only commandment lah!

What about his teaching that if you want salvation, you must keep the commandments? Is that not Jesus's commandment, that you keep the commandments? And there are many more. 

So why do you say there is only 1 commandment from Jesus?
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(29-06-2025, 07:02 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Of the top 10 biggest oil reserves in the world today, how many belong to the Arabs?

Do you know who is always dropping bombs on Muslim countries in the world?

If the muslims are kind n compassionate why would anyone drop bombs on them?

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(29-06-2025, 06:04 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Allah informs us that the evil people forged scriptures to make it look like it is from God.

Who are the evil people who always against Christians faith?

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(29-06-2025, 07:06 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  What about his teaching that if you want salvation, you must keep the commandments? Is that not Jesus's commandment, that you keep the commandments? And there are many more. 

So why do you say there is only 1 commandment from Jesus?

God gave 10 Commandments to the Israelites to keep and teach their children and grandchildren so they all memorised by heart lah! Big Grin The new commandment that Jesus gave His disciples was: love one another lah! Keeping the commandments doesn't give you salvation but believing in Jesus Christ and accepting Him as your personal Saviour and the Lord of your life will save you lah, Ali!
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What is the last commandment Jesus gave?
Matthew 28:18 states: And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in Heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go, therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(29-06-2025, 06:54 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If you don't know the full story, please don't spread lies that other Christian missionaries are fond of doing. 

I think yọu don't know the story

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In Islamic tradition, Muhammad married Zaynab bint Jahsh, who was previously married to his adopted son, Zayd ibn Harithah. This marriage was controversial at the time because pre-Islamic customs forbade marriage to a former wife of one's adopted son. The event is described in the Quran, which also states that Muhammad initially hesitated due to these customary beliefs. 

Muhammad broke the customs just to marry his son's wife.!
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(29-06-2025, 06:57 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If it is confirmed in the Quran, like the Shema, we can say it is the truth.

As for the commands to commit genocide, it goes against what we believe about Allah, that He is most just and most merciful. A merciful God would not command the killings of innocent children and suckling infants. 

Wallahu 'alam.

I ask for the proof from your Quran with Allah saying that the plight of the Amalekites were due to corruption....but you have showed me none

Allah says you cannot pick and choose which verses to believe....why are you disobeying His commandments
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Why did the prophet divorce his wife?
It is alleged that while she remained faithful to the Prophet, he divorced her because of her age. They say this was unjust on his part, and therefore, a violation of the Qur'anic instruction of justice among multiple wives (Qur'an 4:3)
Wife old Liao kick out?

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(29-06-2025, 07:24 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I think yọu don't know the story

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In Islamic tradition, Muhammad married Zaynab bint Jahsh, who was previously married to his adopted son, Zayd ibn Harithah. This marriage was controversial at the time because pre-Islamic customs forbade marriage to a former wife of one's adopted son. The event is described in the Quran, which also states that Muhammad initially hesitated due to these customary beliefs. 

Muhammad broke the customs just to marry his son's wife.!

I won't comment on other people's religions lah! Big Grin I don't understand their scriptures and beliefs so I better shut up lah!
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(29-06-2025, 07:51 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  I won't comment on other people's religions lah! Big Grin I don't understand their scriptures and beliefs so I better shut up lah!

Back then people are very havoc.. Big Grin
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(29-06-2025, 07:56 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Back then people are very havoc.. Big Grin

ALL men and women will commit sins lah! Big Grin David also lah!
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(29-06-2025, 07:57 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  ALL men and women will commit sins lah! Big Grin David also lah!

All are sinners lah..no one can keep the commandments perfectly..

In this era, you would never hear of a father marrying his son's wife while still having ten other wives... Big Grin That's why I mentioned that people were quite chaotic thousands of years ago.... they were very daring
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(29-06-2025, 08:37 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  All are sinners lah..no one can keep the commandments perfectly..

In this era, you would never hear of a father marrying his son's wife while still having ten other wives... Big Grin That's why I mentioned that people were quite chaotic thousands of years ago.... they were very daring

All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God lah! Big Grin
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(29-06-2025, 07:31 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Why did the prophet divorce his wife?
It is alleged that while she remained faithful to the Prophet, he divorced her because of her age. They say this was unjust on his part, and therefore, a violation of the Qur'anic instruction of justice among multiple wives (Qur'an 4:3)
Wife old Liao kick out?

Wah...old Liao kick out..which God will teach this?
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(29-06-2025, 08:43 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Wah...old Liao kick out..which God will teach this?
He don’t  know how to appreciate an antique 
lol

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(29-06-2025, 07:56 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Back then people are very havoc.. Big Grin

Maybe testicle size and sperm production have been steadily decreasing for generations. Evidence shows that our male ancestors had much larger balls than modern men who produce significantly smaller amounts of sperm per gram of tissue. The average sperm count of men now is reportedly about half that of men in days of yore, so we're now producing males who are less masculine than their grandfathers. I think we can also expect future generations of men to be much less potent than modern-day men Big Grin
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(29-06-2025, 07:57 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  ALL men and women will commit sins lah! Big Grin David also lah!

(29-06-2025, 08:37 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  All are sinners lah..no one can keep the commandments perfectly..

In this era, you would never hear of a father marrying his son's wife while still having ten other wives... Big Grin That's why I mentioned that people were quite chaotic thousands of years ago.... they were very daring


Men have 10 - 20 times more testosterone than women and a larger hypothalamus, it's obvious why male sex drive is so powerful that they can have sex virtually any time and in almost any place. Add to this the social encouragement that men have received for generations to 'sow their oats' and society's disapproval of sexually active women, and it's little wonder that biologically promiscuous males are dancing to their DNA.

God created us as sexual beings, with distinct bodies (men and women) that have been made in God's image. The Bible emphasizes the importance of our bodies, saying that our bodies have been created not only by God but also for God who desires the best for us, not just for His glory but also for our good.

From the very beginning of the Bible, God designed pair-bonding, that is, one man-one woman to join together as 'one flesh' in marriage. Sex isn't a mechanical act between two objects, but it's a relational bond between two people. And not just any two people.

God's Word tells us that God has beautifully and wonderfully made each precious girl in His personal image, and He loves her. God has uniquely and biologically formed her not for sexual violation from random lustful men but for joyful sexual union with a husband who cherishes, serves, and loves her. This is the good design of a gracious God, yet it has been debauched by lascivious people.

All throughout the Bible, He gives us boundaries, for how our bodies are to be used, but people ignore these boundaries. Filled up to the eyeballs in lust, many mistakenly think that the God-created pleasure of sex and sexuality will bring them ultimate satisfaction.

God says, 'Flee from sexual immorality - any and all sexual thinking, peaking, looking, desiring, touching, and acting outside of marriage. Don't rationalize it - run from it as fast as you can. Sex is great, but sex isn't God. Like anything else that becomes an idol, it will take more than it gives while diverting the human heart away from the only One who's able to give supreme joy and fulfillment.
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(29-06-2025, 05:27 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Is that based on scriptures? Please show me if so.

1 Peter 2:9
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(30-06-2025, 01:56 AM)S I M T A N Wrote:  Men have 10 - 20 times more testosterone than women and a larger hypothalamus, it's obvious why male sex drive is so powerful that they can have sex virtually any time and in almost any place. Add to this the social encouragement that men have received for generations to 'sow their oats' and society's disapproval of sexually active women, and it's little wonder that biologically promiscuous males are dancing to their DNA.

God created us as sexual beings, with distinct bodies (men and women) that have been made in God's image. The Bible emphasizes the importance of our bodies, saying that our bodies have been created not only by God but also for God who desires the best for us, not just for His glory but also for our good.

From the very beginning of the Bible, God designed pair-bonding, that is, one man-one woman to join together as 'one flesh' in marriage. Sex isn't a mechanical act between two objects, but it's a relational bond between two people. And not just any two people.

God's Word tells us that God has beautifully and wonderfully made each precious girl in His personal image, and He loves her. God has uniquely and biologically formed her not for sexual violation from random lustful men but for joyful sexual union with a husband who cherishes, serves, and loves her. This is the good design of a gracious God, yet it has been debauched by lascivious people.

All throughout the Bible, He gives us boundaries, for how our bodies are to be used, but people ignore these boundaries. Filled up to the eyeballs in lust, many mistakenly think that the God-created pleasure of sex and sexuality will bring them ultimate satisfaction.

God says, 'Flee from sexual immorality - any and all sexual thinking, peaking, looking, desiring, touching, and acting outside of marriage. Don't rationalize it - run from it as fast as you can. Sex is great, but sex isn't God. Like anything else that becomes an idol, it will take more than it gives while diverting the human heart away from the only One who's able to give supreme joy and fulfillment.

Islam and sex go hand in hand...without sex , birth rates decrease, Islam is currently progressing in numbers..they focus on quantity rather than quality..take out moslem friend as a good example..he heeds God's call and has 6 children from his legal marriage...  but many believe that he might have a couple more.. Big Grin

Sex is good and sex is taught by their prophet...in many Hadiths, you can actually read about his sexual prowess. Here are 2 good read

Narrated Qatada: Anas bin Malik said, "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa'id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven). Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268, Reported by imam al-Bukhaari in his Saheeh.


Hadith No: 140 (Tirmirdhi) Narrated/Authority of Anas reported that

Allah's Messenger (SAW) used to have intercourse with all his wives and then have a single bath in the end.”
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(29-06-2025, 07:28 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  I ask for the proof from your Quran with Allah saying that the plight of the Amalekites were due to corruption....but you have showed me none

Allah says you cannot pick and choose which verses to believe....why are you disobeying His commandments

There is nothing in the Quran that commands killing innocent women, children, or suckling infants.
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(29-06-2025, 07:08 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  If the muslims are kind n compassionate why would anyone drop bombs on them?

Why did the US bomb Iraq and kill over a million people?

Why did they nuke Japan?

Why did they napalm the Viet Congs?

They are a Christian-majority nation. Why did they go around the world and kill millions and millions of people?
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(30-06-2025, 01:56 AM)S I M T A N Wrote:  Men have 10 - 20 times more testosterone than women and a larger hypothalamus, it's obvious why male sex drive is so powerful that they can have sex virtually any time and in almost any place. Add to this the social encouragement that men have received for generations to 'sow their oats' and society's disapproval of sexually active women, and it's little wonder that biologically promiscuous males are dancing to their DNA.

God created us as sexual beings, with distinct bodies (men and women) that have been made in God's image. The Bible emphasizes the importance of our bodies, saying that our bodies have been created not only by God but also for God who desires the best for us, not just for His glory but also for our good.

From the very beginning of the Bible, God designed pair-bonding, that is, one man-one woman to join together as 'one flesh' in marriage. Sex isn't a mechanical act between two objects, but it's a relational bond between two people. And not just any two people.

God's Word tells us that God has beautifully and wonderfully made each precious girl in His personal image, and He loves her. God has uniquely and biologically formed her not for sexual violation from random lustful men but for joyful sexual union with a husband who cherishes, serves, and loves her. This is the good design of a gracious God, yet it has been debauched by lascivious people.

All throughout the Bible, He gives us boundaries, for how our bodies are to be used, but people ignore these boundaries. Filled up to the eyeballs in lust, many mistakenly think that the God-created pleasure of sex and sexuality will bring them ultimate satisfaction.

God says, 'Flee from sexual immorality - any and all sexual thinking, peaking, looking, desiring, touching, and acting outside of marriage. Don't rationalize it - run from it as fast as you can. Sex is great, but sex isn't God. Like anything else that becomes an idol, it will take more than it gives while diverting the human heart away from the only One who's able to give supreme joy and fulfillment.

God created Man and Woman to have children through sex in the marriage concept so sex was never meant for sin lah! Big Grin
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(29-06-2025, 06:13 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  If without your religion today world peace liao

Which nation today is causing all the wars? A Christian-majority nation, the US. 

The 2 World Wars. Which nations were involved? Again, Christian-majority nations.

Which nation killed civilians in wars? Christian-majority nations like England and the US.
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(30-06-2025, 06:28 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  There is nothing in the Quran that commands killing innocent women, children, or suckling infants.

Of cos there is nothing in the Quran because it is so inadequate...Allah didnt have time for Muhammad ....Allah told him to check with the people of the book to verify the stories
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(30-06-2025, 06:32 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Why did the US bomb Iraq and kill over a million people?

Why did they nuke Japan?

Why did they napalm the Viet Congs?

They are a Christian-majority nation. Why did they go around the world and kill millions and millions of people?

If US didnt nuke Japan...there will be many cases of Japanese military committing genocide on our people...like the sook ching massacre! Do you want your grandparents to go through it?
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(30-06-2025, 07:11 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Of cos there is nothing in the Quran because it is so inadequate...Allah didnt have time for Muhammad ....Allah told him to check with the people of the book to verify the stories

Ok cool.

So we agree that there are no similar commands in the Quran to kill innocent people like we can find in your Bible. As a matter of fact, Islam has an injunction against killing innocent people in times of war.
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(30-06-2025, 07:15 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  If US didnt nuke Japan...there will be many cases of Japanese military committing genocide on our people...like the sook ching massacre! Do you want your grandparents to go through it?

Before the nuking of Japan, the Japanese already surrendered.

Since then, the US has gone into MANY wars, killing millions of innocent people.
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