Scripture readings for Christmas

(19-07-2025, 08:08 AM)Hope Wrote:  https://youtube.com/shorts/00bre6964eI?s...Y_NIsWBAL1


Bible Verses Quran
Cannot be Ishmael 
Issac was the only son God promised him.
Ishmael was from a maid Hagar not promised by God it’s Sarah who gave her to be Abraham ‘s wife.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(19-07-2025, 10:25 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Should drag him to church n hear the gospel lol

Devil inside him will manifest.... Big Grin
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(19-07-2025, 10:35 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Devil inside him will manifest.... Big Grin

lol
He will scream, n roll on the floor 
Saying he is the old legend 
Pastor will ask him. U Want to cast yourself into the pigs?lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(19-07-2025, 09:09 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Allah gives us all the information we need to live our lives according to His will.
What will?
Kill the Christians n Jews?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(19-07-2025, 08:30 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I repeat my statement, not parroting other people's statements. You like to parrot.

If Allah didn't tell us, that means it is not important to know.

Then why u keep questioning us 
Is not this doubled minded,hypocrite?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(19-07-2025, 07:58 AM)Hope Wrote:  https://youtube.com/shorts/cl983Ai98uQ?s...BUpfOjduFb


Why Issac?

New Muslim convert , Ex Christian explains

She is going to the Torah to prove it is Ishmael....this moslem lady should prove to us using her Quran!! 

She cannot use the Quran because the Quran remains quiet! So the authority here for her is the Bible..not the Quran.. Rotfl
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(19-07-2025, 10:50 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  She is going to the Torah to prove it is Ishmael....this moslem lady should prove to us using her Quran!! 

She cannot use the Quran because the Quran remains quiet! So the authority here for her is the Bible..not the Quran.. Rotfl

Ya lo
The truth is only in the bible 
The Koran came 600 years to alter issac to Ishmael n was eaten by sheep n rewrote by man

Of course Moslems will claim its Ishmael their lineage
Sadly it’s not.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(19-07-2025, 10:53 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Ya lo
The truth is only in the bible 
The Koran came 600 years to alter issac to Ishmael n was eaten by sheep n rewrote by man

Of course Moslems will claim its Ishmael their lineage
Sadly it’s not.

The Bible gives us a name Isaac while the Quran does not say anything....the Bible is credible and it dares to put its reputation for scrutiny! Unfortunately our friend said it is not important if Allah decides not to say... Rotfl

Allah few thousands years ago decided to reveal Isaac and then chose not to reveal to Muhammad much later Rotfl
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(19-07-2025, 11:05 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The Bible gives us a name Isaac while the Quran does not say anything....the Bible is credible and it dares to put its reputation for scrutiny! Unfortunately our friend said it is not important if Allah decides not to say... Rotfl

Allah few thousands years ago decided to reveal Isaac and then chose not to reveal to Muhammad much later Rotfl
Not revealed in Koran why moslems think it’s Ishmael they anyhow  guess lah.lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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https://youtube.com/shorts/--WP4tmaFvA?s...Cth9uQo1Zy

That is what pachik has been doing all these while here

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(19-07-2025, 10:35 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Devil inside him will manifest.... Big Grin

https://youtu.be/XNyg3pq97CE?si=VtsHtppvI8BGV6fD

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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https://youtu.be/OaQeQ6_lUZQ?si=gJPmlCnV8rks-gqy

Face to face with Lucifer

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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https://youtube.com/shorts/oO9t-Sv8rG4?s...5x0JTms7xY
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(19-07-2025, 09:55 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Rotfl all OT verses. . ...
Jesus's sacrifice is not a human sacrifice in the sense of God demanding a human life as a payment for sin, but rather God himself providing the sacrifice in the person of Jesus. ... That is the difference!

So, I brought in words from God according to the OT that God abhors human sacrifice.

You brought in words from Paul to challenge God.
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(19-07-2025, 11:05 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The Bible gives us a name Isaac while the Quran does not say anything....the Bible is credible and it dares to put its reputation for scrutiny! Unfortunately our friend said it is not important if Allah decides not to say... Rotfl

Allah few thousands years ago decided to reveal Isaac and then chose not to reveal to Muhammad much later Rotfl

Why do you think the Bible is credible? 

Does it matter to you whether it was Isaac or Ishmael?
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(19-07-2025, 10:04 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Yes...God will say treat each others like brothers...no need to fight and kill!

What will Jesus do on his return?
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(19-07-2025, 02:15 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So, I brought in words from God according to the OT that God abhors human sacrifice.

You brought in words from Paul to challenge God.

You brought in the amalekites in OT to challenge God!

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(19-07-2025, 02:21 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  What will Jesus do on his return?

Destroy all anti christs

within the Book of Revelation, Jesus Christ is prophesied to return to Earth with an army of heavenly beings to defeat the Antichrist and his forces at the Battle of Armageddon. This battle signifies a decisive victory for Christ, resulting in the destruction of the Antichrist and his followers, who are then cast into the lake of fire. Following this victory, Christ will establish his millennial reign on Earth

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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https://youtu.be/sCtwkto5kpk?si=iqj9gCuXLyGyU-pY

Amazing the Holy fire in Jerusalem can be touched and not burnt up.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(19-07-2025, 02:15 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So, I brought in words from God according to the OT that God abhors human sacrifice.

You brought in words from Paul to challenge God.

The New Testament firmly affirms the sacrifice of Jesus to fulfill God's plan of redemption and atonement for our sins... Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John clearly explain it with Paul’s writings providing further reinforcement.
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(19-07-2025, 03:11 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The New Testament firmly affirms the sacrifice of Jesus to fulfill God's plan of redemption and atonement for our sins... Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John clearly explain it with Paul’s writings providing further reinforcement.

A slight correction. Luke's Gospel doesn't have the atonement narrative.
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(19-07-2025, 03:11 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The New Testament firmly affirms the sacrifice of Jesus to fulfill God's plan of redemption and atonement for our sins... Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John clearly explain it with Paul’s writings providing further reinforcement.

As I've said, I brought in God's words according to the Bible, which say God abhors human sacrifice.

You brought in men's words to contradict God's words, saying God sacrificed a man.
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(19-07-2025, 02:17 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Why do you think the Bible is credible? 

Does it matter to you whether it was Isaac or Ishmael?

The Quran claims itself as the supreme authority over previous scriptures, yet when I seek answers, the Quran often does not have them, whereas the Bible offers clear responses. 

So, who will trust in this book and the followers of it? You seem to be a clear example of someone influenced by indoctrination!
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(19-07-2025, 02:48 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  You brought in the amalekites in OT to challenge God!

No, I didn't.

I was discussing the genocide taking place today with Pink, and how the Bible was used to warrant the genocide.
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(19-07-2025, 03:18 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  As I've said, I brought in God's words according to the Bible, which say God abhors human sacrifice.

You brought in men's words to contradict God's words, saying God sacrificed a man.

You quoted the OT ..were they not written by men...the Bible is God's words..authors inspired by God!! Don play semantics!
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(19-07-2025, 03:18 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  The Quran claims itself as the supreme authority over previous scriptures, yet when I seek answers, the Quran often does not have them, whereas the Bible offers clear responses. 

Why does it matter which son it was?
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(19-07-2025, 03:20 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You quoted the OT ..were they not written by men...the Bible is God's words..authors inspired by God!! Don play semantics!

Ok. Let's go with that.

So the authors in the OT say God abhors human sacrifice.

But the authors in the NT say God sacrificed a human.

Do you see a contradiction?
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(19-07-2025, 03:19 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  No, I didn't.

I was discussing the genocide taking place today with Pink, and how the Bible was used to warrant the genocide.

Since you think the torah contains corruption, then you should not believe that it is the work of the Blibical God and instead you shld pay a closer look to what your God is doing in the middle East...He is supporting the Zionists in their efforts to massacre and drive away the Palestinians...how merciful is Him? Big Grin
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(19-07-2025, 03:25 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Since you think the torah contains corruption, then you should not believe that it is the work of the Blibical God and instead you shld pay a closer look to what your God is doing in the middle East...He is supporting the Zionists in their efforts to massacre and drive away the Palestinians...how merciful is Him? Big Grin

I don't agree with what you're alleging, so I'm ignoring that.
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(19-07-2025, 03:25 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ok. Let's go with that.

So the authors in the OT say God abhors human sacrifice.

But the authors in the NT say God sacrificed a human.

Do you see a contradiction?

Jesus is not human He is God in the flesh since no man can be sacrificed for humanity sins !

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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