Scripture readings for Christmas
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Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(27-07-2025, 06:52 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: They were all Israelites...they all came from Isaac to Jacob! This is one of the blessings from Allah
Issac isn’t an Israelite.
Israelite start from his son Jacob.
If Issac was an Israelite, His other son Esau should be an Israelite too. However He wasn’t.
So,
Abraham is not an Israelite
Issac is not an Israelite
Esau is not an Israelite.
The daughter of Jacob also not Israelite.
Only Jacob , his 12 sons and their descendants are Israelites.
Israel mean bounded God’s covenant
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(27-07-2025, 07:41 PM)Hope Wrote: Issac isn’t an Israelite.
Israelite start from his son Jacob.
If Issac was an Israelite, His other son Esau should be an Israelite too. However He wasn’t.
So,
Abraham is not an Israelite
Issac is not an Israelite
Esau is not an Israelite.
The daughter of Jacob also not Israelite.
Only Jacob , his 12 sons and their descendants are Israelites.
Israel mean bounded God’s covenant
Isaac by faith and obedience to God is considered as an Israelite...you can also be an Israelite spiritually...no need to go by lineage.
Yes... God promised to bless the Israelites and make them a great nation, guiding them to the land of Canaan.
27-07-2025, 08:00 PM
(27-07-2025, 07:51 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Isaac by faith and obedience to God is considered as an Israelite...you can also be an Israelite spiritually...no need to go by lineage.
Yes... God promised to bless the Israelites and make them a great nation, guiding them to the land of Canaan.
You mean the people who tried to kill Jesus were blessed by God?
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(27-07-2025, 07:51 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Isaac by faith and obedience to God is considered as an Israelite...you can also be an Israelite spiritually...no need to go by lineage.
Yes... God promised to bless the Israelites and make them a great nation, guiding them to the land of Canaan.
Who considered? God or Rabbi?
What is the meaning of Israel per bible?
As per Jew, Israelites are only Jews. It is like Brahmin in Hinduism.Otherwise Jews could have accommodated more Christian into Israel.
If you are an Israelite,Why Do They keep less than 2% of Christian in Israel?
Great Nation was fulfilled with David.
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Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(27-07-2025, 08:19 PM)Hope Wrote: Who considered? God or Rabbi?
What is the meaning of Israel per bible?
As per Jew, Israelites are only Jews. It is like Brahmin in Hinduism.Otherwise Jews could have accommodated more Christian into Israel.
If you are an Israelite,Why Do They keep less than 2% of Christian in Israel?
Great Nation was fulfilled with David.
Christians believe that Jesus was the Messiah..you can be a jew by faith or through conversion...you can also be an Israelite by faith...
David had a convenant with God and that is a different one compared to Issac
27-07-2025, 08:45 PM
(27-07-2025, 08:41 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Christians believe that Jesus was the Messiah..you can be a jew by faith or through conversion...you can also be an Israelite by faith...
David had a convenant with God and that is a different one compared to Issac
What is the definition of Israel/ Israelite?
As per Islam, Israel means Jacob bounded by God’s covenant .
27-07-2025, 08:46 PM
(27-07-2025, 08:14 PM)Hope Wrote: God didn’t promise anything to Sarah.
God promised to Abraham.Do you know why?
Sarah is just a woman, unlike Mary.
God promised Mary, Not Sarah .
God's promise to Sarah.
13 Then the Lord said to Abraham, “Why did Sarah laugh? Why did she say, ‘Can an old woman like me have a baby?’ 14 Is anything too hard for the Lord? I will return about this time next year, and Sarah will have a son.”
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(27-07-2025, 08:49 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: Jacob is Israel. Israelites are his descendants.
As per Islam, what is God's convenant with Jacob?
So ,Issac isn’t an Israelites.
Quran didn’t mention the covenant in detail.However with these two verses, it emphasises that God is one. Worship him alone.
This was the advice of Abraham—as well as Jacob—to his children, ˹saying˺, “Indeed, Allah has chosen for you this faith; so do not die except in ˹a state of full˺ submission.”
Or did you witness when death came to Jacob? He asked his children, “Who will you worship after my passing?” They replied, “We will ˹continue to˺ worship your God, the God of your forefathers—Abraham, Ishmael, and Isaac—the One God. And to Him we ˹all˺ submit.”Quran 2:132-133
27-07-2025, 09:36 PM
(27-07-2025, 09:33 PM)Hope Wrote: So ,Issac isn’t an Israelites.
Quran didn’t mention the covenant in detail.However with these two verses, it emphasises that God is one. Worship him alone.
This was the advice of Abraham—as well as Jacob—to his children, ˹saying˺, “Indeed, Allah has chosen for you this faith; so do not die except in ˹a state of full˺ submission.”
Or did you witness when death came to Jacob? He asked his children, “Who will you worship after my passing?” They replied, “We will ˹continue to˺ worship your God, the God of your forefathers—Abraham, Ishmael, and Isaac—the One God. And to Him we ˹all˺ submit.”Quran 2:132-133
Isaac is considered an Israelite by faith and obedience to God. You can be considered Israelite through faith in God, even if you are not a Jew
27-07-2025, 09:36 PM
(27-07-2025, 08:46 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: God's promise to Sarah.
13 Then the Lord said to Abraham, “Why did Sarah laugh? Why did she say, ‘Can an old woman like me have a baby?’ 14 Is anything too hard for the Lord? I will return about this time next year, and Sarah will have a son.”
Quran says Allah promised to Abraham .
in his old age ,Because he passed the test in his faith.
That the reason Allah rewarded him off springs
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