Scripture readings for Christmas

Abdool only asking silly questions N so proud of himself

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(21-08-2025, 05:47 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  I never said I want to be friend with u lah 
Self praise who are u?
Nothing to me lol

You are the one who keeps bringing up that Quran verse where Allah says we shouldn't take the Jews and Christians, who are friends with each other, as our friends.

Dunno how many times you quoted that verse here, over and over again.
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(21-08-2025, 05:50 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  If found in the Koran it is now a Bible not the  Koran 
Believe in Jesus not Muhammad

I believe in both.

I believe in all of the Prophets and Messengers God sent.

Peace be upon all of them.
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Your prophet also not sure where he is gg
How to save u like Jesus ?

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(21-08-2025, 05:55 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Your prophet also not sure where he is gg

Who told you that?
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Yesterday, I chatted with a Christian woman who has a strong knowledge of the Bible. She mentioned that Abraham did not go to Arabia and that Ishmael is like a forgotten son, not the ancestor of the Arabs. 


When I brought up COVID, I said that it might be part of God's will. She responded by saying that God's intention is to prosper the people in large numbers, not see a decline in population. I then pointed out that the large number of deaths could also be seen as part of God's will...she kept quiet Big Grin She is like our friend Ali refusing to give in Rotfl
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I support what the bible and Quran say! Big Grin The land must be returned to the jews
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(21-08-2025, 05:54 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I believe in both.

I believe in all of the Prophets and Messengers God sent.

Peace be upon all of them.
So u believe Jesus is the only way good for u go n baptize n reborn

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Several other verses also address the topic of honoring parents:
* Exodus 20:12: 
"Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land that the Lord your God is giving you". 





* Leviticus 19:3: 
"Every one of you shall revere his mother and his father...". 





* Proverbs 23:22: 
"Listen to your father who gave you life, and do not despise your mother when she is old". 





* Matthew 15:4: 
"For God commanded, 'Honor your father and your mother'; and, 'Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.'" according to Focus on the Family. 





* Colossians 3:20: 
"Children, obey your parents in all things, for this is well pleasing to the Lord". 




Pachik don’t know it’s in the Bible
Aged parents or non aged all the same
Really abdool

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(21-08-2025, 06:00 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Who told you that?

It’s been posted in this thread several times u can’t read ?
Really abdool !

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https://youtu.be/QBTo5iF6F7I?si=sxV0gUnwKqErL9h6

Not sure he is a prophet ?

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(21-08-2025, 07:54 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  It’s been posted in this thread several times u can’t read ?
Really abdool !

How do you know if it's true or just lies?
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(21-08-2025, 08:10 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  How do you know if it's true or just lies?

To u is lies to me is true

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(21-08-2025, 07:50 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Several other verses also address the topic of honoring parents:
* Exodus 20:12: 
"Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land that the Lord your God is giving you". 





* Leviticus 19:3: 
"Every one of you shall revere his mother and his father...". 





* Proverbs 23:22: 
"Listen to your father who gave you life, and do not despise your mother when she is old". 





* Matthew 15:4: 
"For God commanded, 'Honor your father and your mother'; and, 'Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.'" according to Focus on the Family. 





* Colossians 3:20: 
"Children, obey your parents in all things, for this is well pleasing to the Lord". 




Pachik don’t know it’s in the Bible
Aged parents or non aged all the same
Really abdool

I never said the Bible doesn't have such verses. But only in Islam is the teaching to be extra kind to aged parents can be found.

Btw, do you agree with Matthew 15:4? Should children who revile their parents be put to death?
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(21-08-2025, 08:11 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  To u is lies to me is true

If it is not true, it is not true. You cannot say what is false is true just because you like the false. That's dishonest.
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Jesus tells us how we can be CERTAIN of our salvation. Jesus says this in the book of Revelation.
And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new.
And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come.
And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

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(21-08-2025, 03:46 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Do you believe the Father is 1 fully 100% God?

Do you believe the Son is 1 fully 100% God?

Do you believe the Holy Spirit is 1 fully 100% God?

Yes, ofcoz lah! Big Grin There is only 1 God lah!
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(21-08-2025, 08:13 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If it is not true, it is not true. You cannot say what is false is true just because you like the false. That's dishonest.
U claim the Bible is corrupted u are dishonest

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(21-08-2025, 08:28 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U claim the Bible is corrupted u are dishonest

I'm sorry. That's not my claim. Your Christian Bible scholars made that findings. They are the people who said the Bible is corrupted.

I have no right to make that claim. I am not a Bible scholar.
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(21-08-2025, 08:28 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  Yes, ofcoz lah! Big Grin There is only 1 God lah!

Is it wrong for me to say that you believe in 3 Gods?
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(21-08-2025, 08:34 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Is it wrong for me to say that you believe in 3 Gods?

God the Father and God the Son and God the Spirit all 3 are 1 God lah! Big Grin
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(21-08-2025, 08:31 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I'm sorry. That's not my claim. Your Christian Bible scholars made that findings. They are the people who said the Bible is corrupted.

I have no right to make that claim. I am not a Bible scholar.
U claim it n blame on the scholars double minded

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(21-08-2025, 08:37 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  God the Father and God the Son and God the Spirit all 3 are 1 God lah! Big Grin

Is the Father 1 God?

Is the Son 1 God?

Is the Holy Spirit 1 God?

Please add them up.
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(21-08-2025, 08:38 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U claim it n blame on the scholars double minded

I already told you. I have no right to make that claim because I am not a Bible scholar.

I am merely telling you what Christian Bible scholars say about the Bible, that it is corrupted.
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(21-08-2025, 08:13 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If it is not true, it is not true. You cannot say what is false is true just because you like the false. That's dishonest.

Yes, some Islamic traditions suggest that Prophet Muhammad expressed uncertainty about his own fate in the afterlife. Specifically, a verse in the Quran (46:9) is cited, where Muhammad states he does not know what will happen to him or his followers. This verse is interpreted as a statement of humility and a reminder that only God knows who will be admitted to Paradise, according to some scholars. 

Here's a more detailed explanation:
  • Quran 46:9
    This verse is central to the discussion. It states, "I am not the first of the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow what is revealed to me, and I am but a clear warner.". 

  • Humility and Submission: 
    Many Muslims interpret this verse as a testament to Muhammad's humility and submission to God's will. It emphasizes that salvation is ultimately in God's hands, not a matter of human certainty. 

  • Not a Contradiction: 
    Some scholars reconcile this with other traditions about Muhammad's virtues and eventual entry into Paradise by suggesting that while he didn't know his specific fate with certainty, he also had knowledge of certain aspects of the afterlife through divine revelation according to some Islamic scholars. 

  • No Guarantee: 
    This concept highlights that in Islam, salvation is not guaranteed to anyone, even prophets. It is a matter of God's judgment based on faith and deeds. 


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(21-08-2025, 08:41 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I already told you. I have no right to make that claim because I am not a Bible scholar.

I am merely telling you what Christian Bible scholars say about the Bible, that it is corrupted.

So u believe the Bible is true 
Good for you 
The scholars are lying not u

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(21-08-2025, 05:52 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You are the one who keeps bringing up that Quran verse where Allah says we shouldn't take the Jews and Christians, who are friends with each other, as our friends.

Dunno how many times you quoted that verse here, over and over again.
Because u repeated same questions so reply same answers cannot meh? 
Why u so sensitive lol

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(21-08-2025, 08:39 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Is the Father 1 God?

Is the Son 1 God?

Is the Holy Spirit 1 God?

Please add them up.

You can't add up like that for God lah! Big Grin There is only 1 God in 3 Persons lah!
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(21-08-2025, 08:48 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  So u believe the Bible is true 
Good for you 
The scholars are lying not u

Scholars like Bruce Metzger or Bart Ehrman don't lie. They have a reputation to maintain among their peers.

And no, I don't believe the Bible is true.

So, do you agree the child should be put to death if he reviles his parents?
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(21-08-2025, 08:39 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Is the Father 1 God?

Is the Son 1 God?

Is the Holy Spirit 1 God?

Please add them up.
Adds up to 1
Yours 1+1=2 how come ?

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