[Lukongsimi]

Cyrus was a messiah. Is his station as the messiah higher than a prophet of God?

Yes, in the Hebrew Bible, God designates the Persian King Cyrus the Great as His "messiah" (anointed one) for his role in allowing the Israelites to return from Babylon and rebuild their Temple in Jerusalem. The term "messiah" means "anointed" and can refer to any person appointed or chosen by God for a specific task, not just the ultimate Israelite redeemer. Cyrus is the only foreigner identified as a messiah in the Bible for this specific historical act, which fulfilled prophecy

[Lukongsimi]

According to the Bible, which is the inspired Word of God, those who accept the gift of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior are His children

[pinkpanther]

Cyrus was a messiah. Is his station as the messiah higher than a prophet of God?

Jesus's station as the ultimate messiah is higher than a prophet of god

[Ali Imran]

Jesus's station as the ultimate messiah is higher than a prophet of god

Ok.

For us, the highest station is prophethood and Jesus is a prophet.

[pinkpanther]

Ok.

For us, the highest station is prophethood and Jesus is a prophet.

Jesus is also a messiah

[Ali Imran]

Jesus is also a messiah

Yes, he is the Messiah, as well as a Prophet.

So was King David, a Messiah and a Prophet.

[pinkpanther]

Yes, he is the Messiah, as well as a Prophet.

So was King David, a Messiah and a Prophet.

That is debatable...but a messiah was to descend from King David

[Ali Imran]

That is debatable...but a messiah was to descend from King David

King David was a prophet. 

King David was a messiah.

Which one debatable?

[pinkpanther]

King David was a prophet. 

King David was a messiah.

Which one debatable?

Kind David was not a messiah because the messiah is supposed to be a future leader from his descendants

[Ali Imran]

Kind David was not a messiah because the messiah is supposed to be a future leader from his descendants

King David was called a messiah many times in the Bible.

[pinkpanther]

King David was called a messiah many times in the Bible.

Yes .he was the divine chosen king but the messiah is only specifically for Jesus who fulfilled the messianic prophecies

[Ali Imran]

Yes .he was the divine chosen king but the messiah is only specifically for Jesus who fulfilled the messianic prophecies

I've no doubt that Jesus is a messiah and that he was prophesied.

The Bible repeatedly states that King David was also a messiah, but you said he was not a messiah. So who is right? The Bible or you?

[pinkpanther]

I've no doubt that Jesus is a messiah and that he was prophesied.

The Bible repeatedly states that King David was also a messiah, but you said he was not a messiah. So who is right? The Bible or you?

That is why I say it is debatable..In Christian interpretation, David is considered a forerunner or ancestor of Jesus, the true Messiah.

[cheekopekman]

Jesus is also a messiah

Yes, he is the Messiah, as well as a Prophet.

So was King David, a Messiah and a Prophet.

There were many messiahs lah!  But Jesus Christ is THE Messiah for all lah!

[Ali Imran]

That is why I say it is debatable..In Christian interpretation, David is considered a forerunner or ancestor of Jesus, the true Messiah.

So you believe David, pbuh, was a false messiah?

[Ali Imran]

There were many messiahs lah!  But Jesus Christ is THE Messiah for all lah!

I agree. Jesus, pbuh, is the final messiah.

BUT.. Jesus hasn't been anointed yet. That means he is still not yet the king of the Israelites. That will happen in his 2nd coming.

Wallahu 'alam.

[Lukongsimi]

BUT.. Jesus hasn't been anointed yet. That means he is still not yet the king of the Israelites. That will happen in his 2nd coming.

Wallahu 'alam.

Jesus was anointed multiple times: the Holy Spirit descended on him at his baptism, and a woman poured expensive oil on his feet and head as a symbolic act of coronation. The act of anointing in the Bible is a significant ritual, often performed on kings and priests, symbolizing God's selection and empowerment for a specific purpose. The phrase "anointed one"(Messiah) directly refers to this divine appointment. 

[Lukongsimi]

Ok.

For us, the highest station is prophethood and Jesus is a prophet.

Jesus is God!

[Lukongsimi]

Abdool certainly learn a lot from this thread lol

[pinkpanther]

So you believe David, pbuh, was a false messiah?

Even the Jews do not recognize David as their messiah..

[pinkpanther]

Jesus was anointed multiple times: the Holy Spirit descended on him at his baptism, and a woman poured expensive oil on his feet and head as a symbolic act of coronation. The act of anointing in the Bible is a significant ritual, often performed on kings and priests, symbolizing God's selection and empowerment for a specific purpose. The phrase "anointed one"(Messiah) directly refers to this divine appointment. 

Your findings will leave him speechless 

[Lukongsimi]

Your findings will leave him speechless 

That is why he avoids me lol

[cheekopekman]

I agree. Jesus, pbuh, is the final messiah.

BUT.. Jesus hasn't been anointed yet. That means he is still not yet the king of the Israelites. That will happen in his 2nd coming.

Wallahu 'alam.

Thank you for agreeing with me for once lah!

[Ali Imran]

Even the Jews do not recognize David as their messiah..

They also don't recognize Jesus as their messiah. They cursed him and they are saying Jesus is burning in hell. So let's not use them as a yardstick.

The Bible repeatedly states that David was a messiah. Do you disagree with the Bible?

[Ali Imran]

Thank you for agreeing with me for once lah!

You're welcome.