[pinkpanther]

Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. - Acts 2

According to Jesus's closest disciple, Jesus was a man and God did the miracles through him, which means Jesus didn't do those miracles. It was God who did the miracles. Jesus also said, "I by myself can do nothing." 

So, I reject your claim of Jesus being God. How can Jesus be God when he himself worships God?

Jesus is the living god in human form....".I by myself can do nothing" suggests that he is humbling himself

Aiya....Don read too much of your quran that came 500yrs later..you Muslims always brag about the quran being original, intact, consistent but the fact is Uthman burned all the other versions of the quran and chose the best instead...

The quran must be inadequate because the goat ate part of it away...

[pinkpanther]

I can understand the Quran even though I don't speak Arabic.

What's the problem?

Yeah,..I also can understand and I don speak Arabic!
Now you are not listening to your god or not paying attention in class..
 In order to understand the relevation in clear..you need to learn the Arabic language in full...this is what your God commands you to do

Don take your mentors or teachers for what they told you..they might have a different interpretation of what the real verse mean..

Like I say....how sad is it that your god requires everyone to know Arabic to know his clearest relevations!

[Ali Imran]

Bible Question:

Does Deuteronomy 24:1-4 say a person can marry their ex-spouse again?

Bible Answer:

Deuteronomy 24:1-4 is about divorce and remarriage. The passage tells us that a man or woman cannot return to a former spouse and marry him or her if the former spouse had subsequently married another person. Here is the passage,

The contention is the no-divorce rule except on grounds of adultery. 

An abused spouse cannot seek divorce from an abusive partner.

[pinkpanther]

Imagine that, the creator of the universe got stoned like an adulterer.

Is that your god?

Yes...because no one believes god can take the form of human!
Do you believe?

[Ali Imran]

Yeah,..I also can understand and I don speak Arabic!
Now you are not listening to your god or not paying attention in class..
 In order to understand the relevation in clear..you need to learn the Arabic language in full...this is what your God commands you to do

Don take your mentors or teachers for what they told you..they might have a different interpretation of what the real verse mean..

Like I say....how sad is it that your god requires everyone to know Arabic to know his clearest relevations!

You read the Bible in English, which was translated from the Greek manuscript. On top of that, Jesus spoke in Aramaic. You don't have the original words of Jesus.

For us, we have the original words of God, in Arabic, for our scholars to study.

[pinkpanther]

The contention is the no-divorce rule except on grounds of adultery. 

An abused spouse cannot seek divorce from an abusive partner.

Aiya....I already gave you a link for you to easy read! These explanatory findings are clearly defined in the link! Stubborn mule always thinking there is no way out while the one being abuse has to be abuse for life?

[Ali Imran]

Yes...because no one believes god can take the form of human!
Do you believe?

No, I don't believe God needs to take the form of a human just to forgive us of our sins.

[Ali Imran]

Aiya....I already gave you a link for you to easy read! These explanatory findings are clearly defined in the link! Stubborn mule always thinking there is no way out while the one being abuse has to be abuse for life?

Yes, you have made it clear that Jesus's teachings were for the time when women had no status. That's what you said.

[pinkpanther]

You read the Bible in English, which was translated from the Greek manuscript. On top of that, Jesus spoke in Aramaic. You don't have the original words of Jesus.

For us, we have the original words of God, in Arabic, for our scholars to study.

Jesus did not say we can only understand the bible in greek or Aramaic...

Your quran requires one to master Arabic ....this command isn't clear?...to understand it in its clearest form...
You need to learn Arabic to decipher the real meaning...Don wait for your scholars to spoon feed you...they might have different agendas on how and what to teach you and if there are any contradictions..they will sweep under the carpet..and claim it "for the good of islam"

If you yourself don even understand Arabic fully...then why should I trust your quran

[pinkpanther]

Yes, you have made it clear that Jesus's teachings were for the time when women had no status. That's what you said.

If you don read...then you don know enough..I have provided you the findings..I am not obligated to spoon feed you or be that circus seal!

[pinkpanther]

No, I don't believe God needs to take the form of a human just to forgive us of our sins.

But God can take on human form because he is God....

Whether you believe he needs to take on human form to die for our sins...then that's your belief!

[Ali Imran]

Jesus did not say we can only understand the bible in greek or Aramaic...

The Gospels were written 4 or 5 decades after Jesus in Koine Greek. It brought about many different understandings of what Jesus said, which is why you have some Christians saying Jesus is God and some Christians saying Jesus is not God. And some Christians saying must follow the law and others saying no need to follow the law.

[Ali Imran]

But God can take on human form because he is God....

Whether you believe he needs to take on human form to die for our sins...then that's your belief!

Can the unlimited be limited at the same time?

Can the all-knowing not know some things?

Can the uncontainable be contained?

So many paradoxes.

[pinkpanther]

The Gospels were written 4 or 5 decades after Jesus in Koine Greek. It brought about many different understandings of what Jesus said, which is why you have some Christians saying Jesus is God and some Christians saying Jesus is not God. And some Christians saying must follow the law and others saying no need to follow the law.

I don live in those times my friend...and I am sure that what we read are the results of consistency in the findings....maybe there are some inaccuracies but that does not suggest that the overall understanding or consensus is not true!

[Ali Imran]

I don live in those times my friend...and I am sure that what we read are the results of consistency in the findings....maybe there are some inaccuracies but that does not suggest that the overall understanding or consensus is not true!

The Bible has inaccuracies, contradictions, and errors. But yet, you said the overall understanding is true. 

What is the overall understanding you're talking about?

[pinkpanther]

The Bible has inaccuracies, contradictions, and errors. But yet, you said the overall understanding is true. 

What is the overall understanding you're talking about?

You can have thousands of manuscripts.....and yes there may be inaccuracies...but we just need to find what is consistent in the findings!!

I don believe the Bible has many inaccuracies, contradictions or errors! 
I believe the quran was rewrote by uthman to make it look flawless

[Lukongsimi]

The contention is the no-divorce rule except on grounds of adultery. 

An abused spouse cannot seek divorce from an abusive partner.

Why not, stay single until your spouse mati then remarry

Matthew 19:8-9 English Standard Version 2016 (ESV)
He said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”

[Lukongsimi]

The Bible has inaccuracies, contradictions, and errors. But yet, you said the overall understanding is true. 

What is the overall understanding you're talking about?

U don’t have proofs only believe in man’s made words

[Lukongsimi]

The Gospels were written 4 or 5 decades after Jesus in Koine Greek. It brought about many different understandings of what Jesus said, which is why you have some Christians saying Jesus is God and some Christians saying Jesus is not God. And some Christians saying must follow the law and others saying no need to follow the law.

Quran is 500 plus years even later can believe? No witness at all during Jesus’s time.

[pinkpanther]

For eg..this beedio that I am going to show you...
It might have some inaccuracies but the consistency of truth is close to 99%
Don you agree Ali?

[Ali Imran]

You can have thousands of manuscripts.....and yes there may be inaccuracies...but we just need to find what is consistent in the findings!!

I don believe the Bible has many inaccuracies, contradictions or errors! 
I believe the quran was rewrote by uthman to make it look flawless

In the Bible, we read about Prophet Joseph's meeting with Pharoah. That is an inaccuracy because, at the time of Prophet Joseph, there were no pharaohs in Egypt. This particular inaccuracy is known as anachronism. In the Quran, Prophet Joseph met with the king of Egypt and Prophet Moses met with the pharaoh of Egypt. We only know of that inaccuracy in the Bible in modern times, when the Rosetta stones were found and interpreted. I can show you more of such inaccuracies in the Bible.

As for contradictions, we already discussed a few irreconcilable contradictions. Jesus said one thing and Paul said the opposite. 

As for errors, there are tons and tons of them but they are mostly spelling errors or other insignificant errors.

[Tee tiong huat]

Yes...because no one believes god can take the form of human!
Do you believe?

Somethings to think in oneself minds or in our Brain.
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[pinkpanther]

Quran is 500 plus years even later can believe? No witness at all during Jesus’s time.

Yes ...we reject the quran's version of Jesus!

To attest to Ali's character...you have to ask oyk, lukongsimi,hope, me and plenty more..some may write and describe Ali differently but the consistency findings is Ali is a stubborn mule  ..he is a Muslim!

500yrs down the road...some bloke claim to know Ali better than us..refuting the claims of everyone of us and he says Ali is an African Chinese that worship the elephant God.....

Who do you believe Ali? you will do cross check with with witnesses like oyk, hope, lukongsimi and me tiok bo and see if there are any consistency....Will you check with the guy who came abt 500 yrs later?

No brainer tiok boh!

[pinkpanther]

Somethings to think in oneself minds or in our Brain.
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[Tee tiong huat]

Cannot see

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[Lukongsimi]

Yes ...we reject the quran's version of Jesus!

To attest to Ali's character...you have to ask oyk, lukongsimi,hope, me and plenty more..some may write and describe Ali differently but the consistency findings is Ali is a stubborn mule  ..he is a Muslim!

500yrs down the road...some bloke claim to know Ali better than us..refuting the claims of everyone of us and he says Ali is an African Chinese that worship the elephant God.....

Who do you believe Ali?

Believe Ali ..pigs can climb trees
lol

[pinkpanther]

In the Bible, we read about Prophet Joseph's meeting with Pharoah. That is an inaccuracy because, at the time of Prophet Joseph, there were no pharaohs in Egypt. This particular inaccuracy is known as anachronism. In the Quran, Prophet Joseph met with the king of Egypt and Prophet Moses met with the pharaoh of Egypt. We only know of that inaccuracy in the Bible in modern times, when the Rosetta stones were found and interpreted. I can show you more of such inaccuracies in the Bible.

As for contradictions, we already discussed a few irreconcilable contradictions. Jesus said one thing and Paul said the opposite. 

As for errors, there are tons and tons of them but they are mostly spelling errors or other insignificant errors.

So you believe in the bible?

If we read the Bible at face value, without a preconceived bias for finding errors....we will find it to be a coherent, consistent, and relatively easy to understand book.... tiok boh

Yes, there are verses that appear to contradict each other. ...but we must remember that the Bible was written by so many different authors over a period of around 1,500 years.... Each writer wrote with a different style, from a different perspective, to a different audience, for a different purpose.....

We should and can expect some minor differences tiok boh.. ...However, a difference is not a contradiction...,, It is only an error if there is absolutely no conceivable way the verses or passages can be reconciled...... Even if an answer is not available right now, it does not mean an answer does not exist. ....Many have found a supposed error in the Bible in relation to history or geography only to find out that the Bible is correct once further archaeological evidence is discovered.......

And about Paul who was inspired by God.....we have discussed in great length before and I don wish to continue just like the Trinity was put to the front so many times before...perhaps oyk can take his time to recap Paul to our Muslim friend!

[Lukongsimi]

No, I don't believe God needs to take the form of a human just to forgive us of our sins.

Jesus Not only forgive our sins but to teach us the will of God and how to enter the Kingdom of God
In order to save our soul Jesus paid a high price for us 
by crucification on the cross.

[Tee tiong huat]

Hope is work in this video, hopefully...
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Silly me, I can't control what is next in the Tiktok video is coming...

[Tee tiong huat]

Cannot see

Hope is work in this video, hopefully...
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