Scripture readings for Christmas

(30-06-2025, 07:06 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  And if they didn't want to leave their homes and their land, what would happen to them?

Death is what awaits them...this is war..what do you think?
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(30-06-2025, 07:08 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Death is what awaits them...this is war..what do you think?

So you are okay with the Jews chasing the Palestinians out of their homes and their land, something they have been doing since 1948?
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(30-06-2025, 07:12 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So you are okay with the Jews chasing the Palestinians out of their homes and their land, something they have been doing since 1948?

Ask Allah if He is OK with the Jews chasing the Palestinians out? He is the almighty God of these 2 groups according to the Quran isnt it

Are you OK with Allah's decision?
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(30-06-2025, 07:07 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  So you are supportive of the nation that had enslaved the Jews, killed their babies, and destroyed their city.

No, of course not.
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(30-06-2025, 07:17 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Ask Allah if He is OK with the Jews chasing the Palestinians out? He is the almighty God of these 2 groups according to the Quran isnt it

Are you OK with Allah's decision?

I'm asking if you, like many Christians, support the idea of the Jews chasing out the Palestinians from their homes.

Are you okay with that?
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(30-06-2025, 07:08 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Death is what awaits them...this is war..what do you think?

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/major...-gaza-poll
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(30-06-2025, 07:41 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I'm asking if you, like many Christians, support the idea of the Jews chasing out the Palestinians from their homes.

Are you okay with that?

Many Christians support the Jews base on the scriptures...this is how they interpret .. God says that He will bless those who bless Israel, and curse those who curse it....

Of cos there are also many Christians who support Palestine and condemn the acts of Israel
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(30-06-2025, 07:53 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/major...-gaza-poll

It is just a poll
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(30-06-2025, 04:29 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Can the Zionists just tell people to leave their homes, which they have been living in for generations?

If it is God's will then it shall be done lah! Big Grin Not my will but God's will be done lah!
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(30-06-2025, 08:00 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Many Christians support the Jews base on the scriptures...this is how they interpret .. God says that He will bless those who bless Israel, and curse those who curse it....

Do you agree with the Christians who support the Jews based on the scriptures?
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(30-06-2025, 08:26 PM)cheekopekman Wrote:  If it is God's will then it shall be done lah! Big Grin Not my will but God's will be done lah!

Why do you believe God's will is so unjust?
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(30-06-2025, 08:45 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Do you agree with the Christians who support the Jews based on the scriptures?

Do you acknowledge the Torah given to Moses as divine? If yes, then you must accept that it is Allah's words Big Grin
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(30-06-2025, 08:58 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Do you acknowledge the Torah given to Moses as divine? If yes, then you must accept that it is Allah's words Big Grin

I believe in God's revelation given to Prophet Moses, pbuh. But I don't have to believe or disbelieve what is written in your Bible.

Do you believe you must bless Israel, as written in your Bible, no matter what they do?
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https://youtu.be/2xYmD0uxtVg
Abraham third wife n her descendants

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(30-06-2025, 09:17 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I believe in God's revelation given to Prophet Moses, pbuh. But I don't have to believe or disbelieve what is written in your Bible.

Do you believe you must bless Israel, as written in your Bible, no matter what they do?

Laughing but why you keep going to the Bible to justify the coming of Muhammad if you don believe it?

If a Moslem does not believe in Allah's revealed books, their faith is considered invalid..Rejecting any part of these scriptures, including the Quran or the previous revelations, is considered an act of disbelief...

So according to the Torah

Numbers 6:22-27:
God instructs Moses to tell Aaron and his sons how to bless the Israelites, using specific words that invoke God's blessings of favor, protection, and peace. 

Deuteronomy 33:
Moses gives a final blessing to the tribes of Israel before his death, emphasizing God's love for them and their unique status. 

Genesis 12:3:
This verse is often cited as a basis for the idea that God will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse them. 

So do you believe in Allah's words? Big Grin
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(30-06-2025, 09:28 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  https://youtu.be/2xYmD0uxtVg
Abraham third wife n her descendants

I think the moslem should know the third wife or maybe his Quran has no information at all Big Grin
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(30-06-2025, 09:30 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Laughing but why you keep going to the Bible to justify the coming of Muhammad if you don believe it?

If a Moslem does not believe in Allah's revealed books, their faith is considered invalid..Rejecting any part of these scriptures, including the Quran or the previous revelations, is considered an act of disbelief...

So according to the Torah

Numbers 6:22-27:
God instructs Moses to tell Aaron and his sons how to bless the Israelites, using specific words that invoke God's blessings of favor, protection, and peace. 

Deuteronomy 33:
Moses gives a final blessing to the tribes of Israel before his death, emphasizing God's love for them and their unique status. 

Genesis 12:3:
This verse is often cited as a basis for the idea that God will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse them. 

So do you believe in Allah's words? Big Grin

Again, I don't have to believe or disbelieve what is written in your Bible.

I've no idea if those are from God or from men who made up those verses and made it look like it is from God.
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(30-06-2025, 09:30 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Genesis 12:3:
This verse is often cited as a basis for the idea that God will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse them. 

Will God bless the Jews in Israel today who rejected Jesus as the Messiah?
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(30-06-2025, 09:17 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I believe in God's revelation given to Prophet Moses, pbuh. But I don't have to believe or disbelieve what is written in your Bible.

Do you believe you must bless Israel, as written in your Bible, no matter what they do?
Whatever God has blessed no one can curse

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(30-06-2025, 09:45 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Again, I don't have to believe or disbelieve what is written in your Bible.

I've no idea if those are from God or from men who made up those verses and made it look like it is from God.

No...you do not need to believe in our Bible...
You need to believe in the Torah the first 5 books of the Hebrew Bible.... Big Grin Allah commands all moslems to believe

Rejecting any part of these scriptures, is considered an act of disbelief.

So are you a kufir?
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(30-06-2025, 09:58 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  No...you do not need to believe in our Bible...
You need to believe in the Torah the first 5 books of the Hebrew Bible.... Big Grin Allah commands all moslems to believe

Rejecting any part of these scriptures, is considered an act of disbelief.

So are you a kufir?

Please don't tell me what I must believe. Please don't be arrogant.
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https://youtu.be/IFyt0ZQiADU
Enoch explained the ten heavens

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(30-06-2025, 10:00 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Please don't tell me what I must believe. Please don't be arrogant.

Then why are you asking for answers?

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(30-06-2025, 10:02 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Then why are you asking for answers?

He said he is a well-informed person. That's why I'm asking him questions.

Let me ask you the same. Do you believe the Jews in Israel who rejected Jesus are blessed people, as stated in the Bible?
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(30-06-2025, 09:48 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Will God bless the Jews in Israel today who rejected Jesus as the Messiah?

This has nothing to do with the Messiah..this is God's promise to the Jews according to the OT..

Under the new convenant..Jews who do not accept Jesus will not attain salvation.
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(30-06-2025, 10:00 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Please don't tell me what I must believe. Please don't be arrogant.

So you don follow Allah's commandments? You are rebellious
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(30-06-2025, 10:06 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  This has nothing to do with the Messiah..this is God's promise to the Jews according to the OT..

Jews who do not accept Jesus will not attain salvation.

If they are destined for hell because they reject Jesus, are they still blessed by God?
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(30-06-2025, 10:09 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  If they are destined for hell because they reject Jesus, are they still blessed by God?

Being blessed by God doesn't necessarily mean you automatically go to heaven.

I'm blessed by God to have 2 kids..so am I guaranteed paradise?
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(30-06-2025, 10:04 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  He said he is a well-informed person. That's why I'm asking him questions.

Let me ask you the same. Do you believe the Jews in Israel who rejected Jesus are blessed people, as stated in the Bible?
Did you see the Jews starving n suffering?

As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly
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(30-06-2025, 10:14 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Being blessed by God doesn't necessarily mean you automatically go to heaven.


So, being blessed by God doesn't mean anything? That is strange indeed.
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