[Lukongsimi]

Hehe.. chulik.

No, I don't belong to the Tabligh movement. 

And please pengyu, I don't condemn the Bible. It is a holy book and I will not step on it, or throw it around, or burn it or eat pages out of it. I will treat it with respect because it is your holy book. What I'm doing is to show you what I believe, that the Bible is not from God nor inspired by God and it is not a reliable source of guidance for mankind.

[Ali Imran]

So which Lord will u call upon?

The same one Jesus called upon.

[Lukongsimi]

The same one Jesus called upon.

The Lord is Jesus Himself
U should call upon Jesus for salvation.

[Ali Imran]

The Lord is Jesus Himself
U should call upon Jesus for salvation.

Jesus prayed to God and I pray to the same God Jesus prayed to.

[Lukongsimi]

Jesus prayed to God and I pray to the same God Jesus prayed to.

Power n authority is given  to Jesus 
The name above all names.

[Ali Imran]

U believe what u believe
I believe what I believe
Why must u force people to walk the same path as u?
I believe according to my heart desires
Not from a man who only read and study from man
Man has own mouth says what is their mouth n why must I believe a man instead of God?
Use brain

Aiyoh.. where got I force you to walk the same path?

Btw, what you believe came from men. St Paul was a man. Clement of Rome was a man. Polycarp was a man. Ignatius of Antioch was a man. They were the people who formulated your faith for you, and told you what to believe and what to read.

What's worse is that you don't even know them yet you believe everything they told you to believe.

[Ali Imran]

Power n authority is given  to Jesus 
The name above all names.

Yes, I believe that power and authority was given to Jesus by God.

I pray to that God who gives Jesus the power and authority.

[Lukongsimi]

[Lukongsimi]

Yes, I believe that power and authority was given to Jesus by God.

I pray to that God who gives Jesus the power and authority.

Have your prayers answered?

[Ali Imran]

Have your prayers answered?

Of course. But if I were you, I would not be asking such a question coz the answer will always be yes.

[pinkpanther]

Jesus prayed to God and I pray to the same God Jesus prayed to.

Same beliefs as the jehovah's witnesses that God and Jesus are different entities.
 the Muslims and the jehovah witnesses are praying to the same god albeit one using the quran the other the Bible. You see there is still common grounds..

They accepted only 1 God not the son and the Holy spirit. What does quran says about trinity? They replace the Holy spirit with Mary! Why ah?

[Lukongsimi]

Of course. But if I were you, I would not be asking such a question coz the answer will always be yes.

Can u pray for rain today?

[Lukongsimi]

Aiyoh.. where got I force you to walk the same path?

Btw, what you believe came from men. St Paul was a man. Clement of Rome was a man. Polycarp was a man. Ignatius of Antioch was a man. They were the people who formulated your faith for you, and told you what to believe and what to read.

What's worse is that you don't even know them yet you believe everything they told you to believe.

N u talk so much to forge our bible aren’t u a man ?
U never met Muh n u believe him ?

[Lukongsimi]

Same beliefs as the jehovah's witnesses that God and Jesus are different entities.
 the Muslims and the jehovah witnesses are praying to the same god albeit one using the quran the other the Bible. You see there is still common grounds..

They accepted only 1 God not the son and the Holy spirit. What does quran says about trinity? They replace the Holy spirit with Mary! Why ah?

Yes 
You are right

[Ali Imran]

Christianity is a dying religion. The traditionally Christian countries in the West have all gone secular and they allow what God forbids, like sex outside marriage. On top of that, the churches are closing up because of the lack of congregants. The latest survey in England shows the majority of English people don't call themselves Christian anymore. 

We Muslims are not responsible for the death of Christianity. If you want to look for something to blame, I'd suggest you look at the Bible, the greatest cause of confusion in Christendom. Trinitarian and Unitarian both use the Bible to support their opposing faith. How come the Bible can support both the Unitarian and Trinitarian? 

Trinitarian - God is three in one
Unitarian - God is one 

Opposing faith means, either both are wrong, or one is right. They both cannot be right.

[Ali Imran]

N u talk so much to forge our bible aren’t u a man ?

Yes, I am a man.

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was a man.

The Quran though, cannot be the works of men. No man can produce the Quran. The Quran itself gives a challenge to anybody, a falsification test. Yes, the Quran gives us a falsification test. If you don't believe the Quran is from God, produce a similar piece of work. No one can until now.

[Lukongsimi]

Christianity is a dying religion. The traditionally Christian countries in the West have all gone secular and they allow what God forbids, like sex outside marriage. On top of that, the churches are closing up because of the lack of congregants. The latest survey in England shows the majority of English people don't call themselves Christian anymore. 

We Muslims are not responsible for the death of Christianity. If you want to look for something to blame, I'd suggest you look at the Bible, the greatest cause of confusion in Christendom. Trinitarian and Unitarian both use the Bible to support their opposing faith. How come the Bible can support both the Unitarian and Trinitarian? 

Trinitarian - God is three in one
Unitarian - God is one 

Opposing faith means, either both are wrong, or one is right. They both cannot be right.

U mean u Muslims pure,clean obedient only the ones gg to heaven ?

U search utube thousands of muslims Turning to follow Christ

[Ali Imran]

So many versions of the hadith?

In short the angels can only see Allah in light form.. muhammad can see him with his naked eyes!! Woow!

The key here is "The Prophet had given different answers to different persons around him".
That means he is not trustworthy.

My friend, let's give weekends a break man..enjoy your break!

Perhaps it is your misunderstanding of our Hadith that makes you think that.

[Ali Imran]

U mean u Muslims pure,clean obedient only the ones gg to heaven ?

No, I would never say that.

[Lukongsimi]

Yes, I am a man.

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was a man.

The Quran though, cannot be the works of men. No man can produce the Quran. The Quran itself gives a challenge to anybody, a falsification test. Yes, the Quran gives us a falsification test. If you don't believe the Quran is from God, produce a similar piece of work. No one can until now.

You are correct all are man except 
Only Jesus our God came  to rescue man by sacrificing himself as the sacrificial lamb.
Praise the Lord!
Who was n is to come 
He is the same yesterday today n forever

[Lukongsimi]

No, I would never say that.

U gave so much hints n yet deny?

[Ali Imran]

U search utube thousands of muslims Turning to follow Christ

You cannot determine the number of adherents by going to Youtube. I'd suggest you go to Pew research and their surveys are credible. This is an example.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/201...apid-pace/

[pinkpanther]

Christianity is a dying religion. The traditionally Christian countries in the West have all gone secular and they allow what God forbids, like sex outside marriage. On top of that, the churches are closing up because of the lack of congregants. The latest survey in England shows the majority of English people don't call themselves Christian anymore. 

We Muslims are not responsible for the death of Christianity. If you want to look for something to blame, I'd suggest you look at the Bible, the greatest cause of confusion in Christendom. Trinitarian and Unitarian both use the Bible to support their opposing faith. How come the Bible can support both the Unitarian and Trinitarian? 

Trinitarian - God is three in one
Unitarian - God is one 

Opposing faith means, either both are wrong, or one is right. They both cannot be right.

Christianity is a dying religion ??...look no further than our own backyard..do you think Christianity is dying or thriving here?? don compare with the Western world. Pls!

[Lukongsimi]

You cannot determine the number of adherents by going to Youtube. I'd suggest you go to Pew research and their surveys are credible. This is an example.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/201...apid-pace/

In the last days many will fall away from faith but still Islam never exceeds Christianities 
Why?

[Ali Imran]

You are correct all are man except 
Only Jesus our God came  to rescue man by sacrificing himself as the sacrificial lamb.
Praise the Lord!
Who was n is to come 
He is the same yesterday today n forever

It doesn't make sense for God to sacrifice anything. Sacrifice does not apply to God because everything belongs to God.

If I sacrifice a goat, it will no longer belong to me. That's what a sacrifice means. Now, for God, everything belongs to God and cannot belong to somebody else. How can God make a sacrifice?

[Lukongsimi]

It doesn't make sense for God to sacrifice anything. Sacrifice does not apply to God because everything belongs to God.

If I sacrifice a goat, it will no longer belong to me. That's what a sacrifice means. Now, for God, everything belongs to God and cannot belong to somebody else. How can God make a sacrifice?

Because u are a man not God so u don’t understand.
Simple as that.

[Ali Imran]

In the last days many will fall away from faith but still Islam never exceeds Christianities 
Why?

How many Christians are Christians in name only? Plenty. 

Let me ask you this. Do you believe Mary was a virgin when she conceived Jesus? Many Christians I spoke to don't believe that anymore.

And do you know what is Pascal's wager? Many Christians are on Pascal's wager, which means they sign up as Christians only because of the "just in case it is true" notion, known as Pascal's wager.

[Ali Imran]

Because u are a man not God so u don’t understand.
Simple as that.

If like that, the Hindus also can argue like that. Btw, the Hindus also have a Trinity, the top 3 main gods, or the Trimurty, and the Trimurty came into existence way before the Christians came up with their Trinity.

[Lukongsimi]

How many Christians are Christians in name only? Plenty. 

Let me ask you this. Do you believe Mary was a virgin when she conceived Jesus? Many Christians I spoke to don't believe that anymore.

And do you know what is Pascal's wager? Many Christians are on Pascal's wager, which means they sign up as Christians only because of the "just in case it is true" notion, known as Pascal's wager.

Mary hasn’t married Joseph yet at that time so I believe she was a virgin.
That is why she was named Virgin Mary.

[Lukongsimi]

If like that, the Hindus also can argue like that. Btw, the Hindus also have a Trinity, the top 3 main gods, or the Trimurty, and the Trimurty came into existence way before the Christians came up with their Trinity.

Now u go n mock Hindus
Aiyo u sebei Cham