[luncheonmeat]

Do you know why they were martyred? Probably because they refused to believe Jesus is God.

Yes, I'm pretty sure many Christians don't know that in the early days, the followers of Jesus were persecuted for not wanting to believe Jesus is God. 

Who killed Servetus? The church fathers. Why did they burn him alive? Because he doesn't want to believe Jesus is God.

Bro Ali, you are not even grasping at straws. You are grasping at gabra.... PL try to read up on the history of Christianity before asking qns. If you dunno anything abt the Christian faith except what Muslim literature tells you, of course you are going to be badly informed and extremely confused. 

[Hope]

U never saw Jesus  doesnt mean that they lied 
U never saw muh or allah means it’s true?

I haven’t seen my great grandfather.I still believe we had a great grandfather.It is the truth.

In Islam, we have features/descriptions of Jesus.Do you have anything in your bible how he look like?

[Ali Imran]

Bro Ali, you are not even grasping at straws. You are grasping at gabra.... PL try to read up on the history of Christianity before asking qns. If you dunno anything abt the Christian faith except what Muslim literature tells you, of course you are badly informed and extremely confused. 

Have you heard of the Ebionites who were the followers of Jesus and St Peter?

Why did they disappear from the surface of the earth? Because they were persecuted and killed. Why? Because they refused to accept the church's narrative. The Ebionites were martyred because they refused to accept that Jesus died on the cross.

Do you know that?

[Ali Imran]

Bro Ali, you are not even grasping at straws. You are grasping at gabra.... PL try to read up on the history of Christianity before asking qns. If you dunno anything abt the Christian faith except what Muslim literature tells you, of course you are badly informed and extremely confused. 

Btw, I learn about early Christian history from scholars like Dr. Daniel Wallace or Dr. Bart Ehrman. They are the leading NT scholars today.

It is only right that if you want to learn about Christian scriptures, you must go to their scholars.

[Hope]

Erh..it is only he,himself and only him..no one else.. my friend

Small drops of water make big ocean.We don’t see thousands of conversations on socials media.

[Ali Imran]

Most Christians don't know the history of early Christianity.

[Lukongsimi]

I haven’t seen my great grandfather.I still believe we had a great grandfather.It is the truth.

In Islam, we have features/descriptions of Jesus.Do you have anything in your bible how he look like?

If u don’t have great grandfathers where your father came From? 
Silly answer lol

Islam came 500 plus years after Christ rose to heaven 
How on earth your book knows how to describe Him?

[Lukongsimi]

Most Christians don't know the history of early Christianity.

All kinds of faked books

[Ali Imran]

They burned alive those who refused the church's version of Christianity.

[Hope]

Same answer 
Judgement day all will see Him

Remember there are seven heavens and seven hells.if you can enter one of the heavens you are saved from fire.
Number one major sin in Islam is associating partners with Lord of the worlds.

[pinkpanther]

Small drops of water make big ocean.We don’t see thousands of conversations on socials media.

But you don see them in person..relying on words or conversations are never enough.
But if I tell you I am a Muslim...you believe?

[luncheonmeat]

First things first, I need to ascertain that those things that you mentioned actually happened.
You can help me by furnishing those verse numbers from the original version of the bible.
Original = the version in the language spoken by Jesus.

I am not from biblical times but it sure feels I posting to someone from the pharisee /sadducees camp. 

You want original, go to the vatican city to ask, they might have it there. If they fail to furnish you with the original , try Israel. For Christians,Jesus is the living WORD of God, not found in ancient scrolls but in SPIRIT, the HOLY Spirit. 

Even if you wish to get pedantic, please post meaningful qns. This thread is getting silly with ridiculous comments from both sides. Wasting time and bandwidth....

[Lukongsimi]

Remember there are seven heavens and seven hells.if you can enter one of the heavens you are saved from fire.
Number one major sin in Islam is associating partners with Lord of the worlds.

So where u think u are going?

[pinkpanther]

Remember there are seven heavens and seven hells.if you can enter one of the heavens you are saved from fire.
Number one major sin in Islam is associating partners with Lord of the worlds.

Ya the seven heavens that Mohammed took an elevator up and down to negotiate with Allah 9 times...Allah must be too free to entertain him

[Ali Imran]

The Gospel according to Mark was the first to be penned. And then, a few decades later, the Gospel according to Matthew.

They both reported the same event but noticed the change. In Mark, Jesus was a teacher and a few decades later in Matthew, Jesus not a teacher but Lord.

In Mark, they were pestering Jesus and a few decades later, they were praying to Jesus.

Mark - “Teacher, don’t you care if we drown?”

Matthew -  “Lord, save us! We’re going to drown!”

[Hope]

So where u think u are going?

I am lucky if I can get into one of the heaven.I am still working hard to avoid the hell.

[Hope]

Ya the seven heavens that Mohammed took an elevator up and down to negotiate with Allah 9 times...Allah must be too free to entertain him

Please quote the source.

[Lukongsimi]

I am lucky if I can get into one of the heaven.I am still working hard to avoid the hell.

The only way to heaven is let Jesus be your way 
There is no other ways to heaven.

[Ali Imran]

I am not from biblical times but it sure feels I posting to someone from the pharisee /sadducees camp. 

You want original, go to the vatican city to ask, they might have it there. If they fail to furnish you with the original , try Israel. For Christians,Jesus is the living WORD of God, not found in ancient scrolls but in SPIRIT, the HOLY Spirit. 

Even if you wish to get pedantic, please post meaningful qns. This thread is getting silly with ridiculous comments from both sides. Wasting time and bandwidth....

Even if the Vatican had it (which they don't), half the Christian world would not believe it.

Half the Christian world believes the Vatican is housing the devil.

[Hope]

If u don’t have great grandfathers where your father came From? 
Silly answer lol

Islam came 500 plus years after Christ rose to heaven 
How on earth your book knows how to describe Him?

Islam started with Adam end with Muhammad.
Quran not only writes about Jesus and also many more prophets.
Quran even write Jesus spoke in his infancy from cradle, which we don’t find in bible.This is the first miracle of Jesus as per Quran

[Hope]

The only way to heaven is let Jesus be your way 
There is no other ways to heaven.

Why is going to heaven is so easy? But becoming wealthy is difficult? Can you explain why did your god create the world this way?

[Lukongsimi]

Islam started with Adam end with Muhammad.
Quran not only writes about Jesus and also many more prophets.
Quran even write Jesus spoke in his infancy from cradle, which we don’t find in bible.This is the first miracle of Jesus as per Quran

Quran copied and rewrote the history of Jesus 
Added different spices to confuse reader

[pinkpanther]

Please quote the source.

Hadith my friend. He negotiated from 50 times prayers to 5 on the advice of moses

[Lukongsimi]

Why is going to heaven is so easy? But becoming wealthy is difficult? Can you explain why did your god create the world this way?

God’s ways are higher than ours 
U ask God yourself

[Hope]

God’s ways are higher than ours 
U ask God yourself

Our God wants to strive in this world for success of both the worlds.

[pinkpanther]

There are non Chinese / English speaking CHRISTIANS who can't speak Chinese / English so they can't read your bible. How?

Bible in chinese, service in chinese, pastor is chinese.
You have that in a mosque? If you have I join ok

[pinkpanther]

Here you go

https://www.darul-arqam.org.sg/quran-in-...in-part-2/

Prayers in chinese also, service in chinese also?

[luncheonmeat]

The Gospel according to Mark was the first to be penned. And then, a few decades later, the Gospel according to Matthew.

They both reported the same event but noticed the change. In Mark, Jesus was a teacher and a few decades later in Matthew, Jesus not a teacher but Lord.

In Mark, they were pestering Jesus and a few decades later, they were praying to Jesus.

Mark - “Teacher, don’t you care if we drown?”

Matthew -  “Lord, save us! We’re going to drown!”

In the bible, both old and new testament, Jesus is referenced to or addressed by many names.  One does not contradict the other. Jesus is ONE with God therefore he is all ENCOMPASSING: LORD, SAVIOUR, TEACHER, RABBI, MAN, SON of GOD, MESSIAH.  You are confused and have difficulty understanding and accepting because the Spirit of knowledge and understanding have been withheld from you. Pray for the spirit of understanding because at this time you will not even understand if a thousand Christian scholars tried explaining to you since your heart and mind are closed to its teachings even though something is making you seek answers from the CHRISTIAN  Bible and not the Quran. If you truly feel Christianity is a fallacy, just dismiss it, why do you keep questioning Christians. Do you see any Christian keep asking questions [except dismissive ones] about Islam.....

[pinkpanther]

Here you go

https://www.darul-arqam.org.sg/quran-in-...in-part-2/

Online session..you also proudly show me..

[luncheonmeat]

This is an opinion.
Stop pushing it as a fact.

Same can be said of the Koran. Mohammed fell asleep in the cave but emerged with all the verses of his 'opinion'.