It is wrong to be gay
13-03-2024, 06:09 AM
13-03-2024, 07:32 AM
How about lao gay who does it for a living?
13-03-2024, 07:44 AM
(03-03-2024, 05:19 AM)victortan Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l56IdoPHmKc&ab_channel=YuvalNoahHarari
true,, it is religion that fail,,it is the law of nature... gay was there before God.
some day most leading religion will disappear like thousand in history after mankind become smarter.
one day we will know where we come from... we dont want frictional story , about God make the world in 7 days, when science prove we are 4.5 b yr old..
Gays are perverted being thinking it's their nature, but in fact it's their heart choosing to be pervert. Anyone can also be gay, they choose perverted desires.
13-03-2024, 09:28 AM
(12-03-2024, 11:17 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: A darker phase was when they were killing Muslims and Jews during the pogroms, the inquisitions, and the crusades.
But truly, Christians have left those days when they took their religion seriously. Nothing to do with false prophets. They were following the Bible to the letter T. Now, Christians don't really follow the Bible anymore.
Please know the difference between Christians and those who exploit God for their selfishness!
Many have used the name of God to justify their acts of atrocities!
Those were the dark days of Christianity - evil people hijacked and exploited the love of people for God for power greed and lust! They didn't love God - they love themselves!
13-03-2024, 10:03 AM
(13-03-2024, 09:28 AM)sporeguy Wrote: Please know the difference between Christians and those who exploit God for their selfishness!
Many have used the name of God to justify their acts of atrocities!
Those were the dark days of Christianity - evil people hijacked and exploited the love of people for God for power greed and lust! They didn't love God - they love themselves!
Hello.
The bad people who hijacked Christianity for their gain are still around today, albeit no longer killing or burning people, only taking their money.
I was telling EvertonDiehard how the Christians today are no longer really following the Bible.
13-03-2024, 10:05 AM
(13-03-2024, 10:03 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Hello.
The bad people who hijacked Christianity for their gain are still around today, albeit no longer killing or burning people, only taking their money.
I was telling EvertonDiehard how the Christians today are no longer really following the Bible.
N do u follow the Bible ?
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
13-03-2024, 10:07 AM
13-03-2024, 10:13 AM
(13-03-2024, 10:07 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Pengyu. I am a Muslim. I have the Quran and the Hadith as our scriptures.
Btw, Muslims are still following the Quran and the Hadith.
Follow Jesus is the only way truth and life
Don’t waste time
Time waits for no man 😊
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
13-03-2024, 10:23 AM
(13-03-2024, 10:13 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Follow Jesus is the only way truth and life
Don’t waste time
Time waits for no man 😊
Thank you for the invite.
I follow Jesus more than you, even though I am a Muslim and you're a Christian. For example, I only worship God alone as taught by Jesus but you don't coz you said "In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit".
Follow Jesus if you wanna be saved but sadly, you won't be able to do that with 100% certainty.
13-03-2024, 10:25 AM
(13-03-2024, 10:23 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Thank you for the invite.
I follow Jesus more than you, even though I am a Muslim and you're a Christian. For example, I only worship God alone as taught by Jesus but you don't coz you said "In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit".
Follow Jesus if you wanna be saved but sadly, you won't be able to do that with 100% certainty.
U are not the judge
Judaism and Christianity are different
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
13-03-2024, 10:31 AM
(13-03-2024, 10:25 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: U are not the judge
Judaism and Christianity are different
What is Jesus's religion? If you wanna follow Jesus, logic will dictate you will be practicing the same religion as your teacher, in this case, Jesus.
Ironic that instead of having the same religion as Jesus, you have a religion about Jesus.
13-03-2024, 10:35 AM
(13-03-2024, 10:31 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: What is Jesus's religion? If you wanna follow Jesus, logic will dictate you will be practicing the same religion as your teacher, in this case, Jesus.That is bef and after resurrection of Jesus Christ
Ironic that instead of having the same religion as Jesus, you have a religion about Jesus.
Muslim came 500 years after Jesus
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
13-03-2024, 10:41 AM
(13-03-2024, 10:35 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: That is bef and after resurrection of Jesus Christ
Muslim came 500 years after Jesus
Ask any learned Muslim what is the religion of Jesus and he/she will tell you Jesus is a Muslim. Being a Muslim means you submit to the will of God and Jesus said ".. not my will but your will be done", meaning he was submitting to the will of the Father and that makes Jesus a Muslim. So too was John the Baptist, King David, King Solomon, Moses, Jacob, Isaac, Ishmael, and all the rest of the Jewish prophets. They all were Muslims because they all submitted to the will of the almighty God.
Peace and blessings of God be upon all the great prophets and messengers.
13-03-2024, 10:47 AM
(13-03-2024, 10:41 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Ask any learned Muslim what is the religion of Jesus and he/she will tell you Jesus is a Muslim. Being a Muslim means you submit to the will of God and Jesus said ".. not my will but your will be done", meaning he was submitting to the will of the Father and that makes Jesus a Muslim. So too was John the Baptist, King David, King Solomon, Moses, Jacob, Isaac, Ishmael, and all the rest of the Jewish prophets. They all were Muslims because they all submitted to the will of the almighty God.
Peace and blessings of God be upon all the great prophets and messengers.
No way I ask the Muslim they will lead me
Astray
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
13-03-2024, 11:00 AM
13-03-2024, 11:03 AM
To Muslims they believe in jesus but Muhammad is the real deal...

13-03-2024, 11:04 AM
(13-03-2024, 11:00 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: How do you know you're not already astray?
Follow Jesus will not go astray
Follow man will go astray
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
13-03-2024, 11:09 AM
(13-03-2024, 11:04 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Follow Jesus will not go astray
Follow man will go astray
Yes, Jesus is the way.
How do you know you're following Jesus? I'm sure you're following your church which is run by men. Or perhaps you're following the Bible which is authored by men. So how are you sure you're following Jesus?
13-03-2024, 11:11 AM
(13-03-2024, 11:09 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Yes, Jesus is the way.I am careful of which church to go
How do you know you're following Jesus? I'm sure you're following your church which is run by men. Or perhaps you're following the Bible which is authored by men. So how are you sure you're following Jesus?
Most are prosperity churches sow seed
Worry about yourself why worry me ?
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
13-03-2024, 11:13 AM
(13-03-2024, 11:11 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: I am careful of which church to go
Most are prosperity churches sow seed
Worry about yourself why worry me ?
I'm not worried about you. I'm just having a conversation with you.
So you are indeed following men who led you to believe you're following Jesus if you follow them.
13-03-2024, 11:16 AM
(13-03-2024, 11:13 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: I'm not worried about you. I'm just having a conversation with you.Already told u
So you are indeed following men who led you to believe you're following Jesus if you follow them.
Follow Jesus not man
😌
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
13-03-2024, 11:22 AM
13-03-2024, 11:32 AM
13-03-2024, 11:38 AM
(13-03-2024, 10:03 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Hello.
The bad people who hijacked Christianity for their gain are still around today, albeit no longer killing or burning people, only taking their money.
I was telling EvertonDiehard how the Christians today are no longer really following the Bible.
Agreed with you lah!

13-03-2024, 11:40 AM
(13-03-2024, 11:32 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Say you want a friend to follow Jesus. How would you tell him to follow Jesus since Jesus himself is not around?
Tell Fren testimonies about Jesus
And it’s up to them to believe and follow
No force
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
13-03-2024, 11:43 AM
(13-03-2024, 11:38 AM)cheekopekman Wrote: Agreed with you lah!Some Christians twist and turn the whole Bible in misinterpretation until very messy lah!
That has been happening since the very start. There were many ecumenical councils in the early days in which the 'learned' Christians would get together to work out confusing theology. And guess what? The confusion in Christendom is even more apparent today. There are even more denominations each with its own theology.
Which denomination out of the thousands there are today is the correct one? Nobody knows. Everybody says their denomination is the correct one.
13-03-2024, 11:48 AM
(13-03-2024, 11:40 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Tell Fren testimonies about Jesus
And it’s up to them to believe and follow
No force
Every religion has testimonies. The Hindus can tell you awesome stories with testimonies. The Buddhists too. All of them have testimonies.
And within Christendom, the opposing sides like Catholic/Protestants, they all have testimonies too.
So which one is following Jesus correctly?
Trust me pengyu. You will not be able to convince any man who thinks critically because you cannot show him the right path to take when you are not sure yourself.
13-03-2024, 11:48 AM
13-03-2024, 11:48 AM
(13-03-2024, 11:43 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: That has been happening since the very start. There were many ecumenical councils in the early days in which the 'learned' Christians would get together to work out confusing theology. And guess what? The confusion in Christendom is even more apparent today. There are even more denominations each with its own theology.
Which denomination out of the thousands there are today is the correct one? Nobody knows. Everybody says their denomination is the correct one.
I know you're a Malay Muslim so I won't argue with you about the Bible lah!

13-03-2024, 11:50 AM
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