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(20-03-2024, 12:15 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Would you like to read articles about that meeting? It is a very famous event and a part of the Greetings between Allah and our prophet is recorded in the Hadith and we recite that Greetings in our 5 daily prayers.
U haven’t answer my q 
Where did your prophet met God n what did God spoke to him?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-03-2024, 12:26 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Who did God speak to? Which part did I lie? Did Muhammad identify Gabriel in the cave? If he did and know he was dealing with gabriel I will convert to a muslim Big Grin

Sorry. I didn't say you lied. When I say falsify, I mean you cannot prove what I believe about the Quran as false, ergo falsify it.

The first meeting between the prophet and Gabriel in the cave, no identification afaik. A while later, a Christian by the name of Waraqa identified the angel as Gabriel. 

But yes, the angel did identify himself as Gabriel to our prophet, when he appeared on the horizon.
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Look Ali, we all have doubts. When I plant seeds of doubts you called me a liar.
Are you not doing it on a daily basis? 
I know you are a faithful Muslim and I respect your vast knowledge. Are there not
anything more important than this kind of discussions when you or others can get angry or hurt easily? Big Grin
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(20-03-2024, 12:30 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  U haven’t answer my q 
Where did your prophet met God n what did God spoke to him?

Where is a bit difficult to say coz the meeting took place out of this world. Even the angel Gabriel could not go there.

Among the things God spoke to our prophet was the establishment of the 5 daily prayers.

If you want to read more. https://muslim.sg/articles/isra-mi-raj-t...chosen-one
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(20-03-2024, 12:32 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Look Ali, we all have doubts. When I plant seeds of doubts you called me a liar.
Are you not doing it on a daily basis? 
I know you are a faithful Muslim and I respect your vast knowledge. Are there not
anything more important than this kind of discussions when you or others can get angry or hurt easily? Big Grin

I've only so far said you spread lies about our prophet. Other than that, I don't remember ever calling you a liar.

Anyhow, you have not planted any seeds of doubt in me. Your questions so far are pretty basic and I've no problem addressing them. Keep them coming please.

I don't consider myself a pious Muslim. I'm kinda ordinary, with the usual failings.

Why are you hurt if I tell you why I don't believe what you believe?
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(20-03-2024, 12:33 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Where is a bit difficult to say coz the meeting took place out of this world. Even the angel Gabriel could not go there.

Among the things God spoke to our prophet was the establishment of the 5 daily prayers.

If you want to read more. https://muslim.sg/articles/isra-mi-raj-t...chosen-one
Unbelievable fairy tale.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-03-2024, 12:39 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Unbelievable fairy tale.

What about zombies in the New Testament? Do you believe zombies were walking about in downtown Jerusalem on that day as recorded in the NT?
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(20-03-2024, 12:40 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  What about zombies in the New Testament? Do you believe zombies were walking about in downtown Jerusalem on that day as recorded in the NT?

Where got zombies ?
Dreaming?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-03-2024, 12:42 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Where got zombies ?
Dreaming?

Read Matthew 27:51-53

Maybe I should not use the term zombies but that is exactly how Matthew describes it.  The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people.
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(20-03-2024, 12:38 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I've only so far said you spread lies about our prophet. Other than that, I don't remember ever calling you a liar.

Anyhow, you have not planted any seeds of doubt in me. Your questions so far are pretty basic and I've no problem addressing them. Keep them coming please.

I don't consider myself a pious Muslim. I'm kinda ordinary, with the usual failings.

Why are you hurt if I tell you why I don't believe what you believe?

How is one considered a prophet if God does not speak to him directly? Big Grin
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(20-03-2024, 12:50 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Read Matthew 27:51-53

Maybe I should not use the term zombies but that is exactly how Matthew describes it.  The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people.

Right 
U see the power of Jesus ‘s resurrection even the dead can rise up
It will occur again during the second coming of Christ the rapture

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-03-2024, 12:51 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  How is one considered a prophet if God does not speak to him directly? Big Grin

Hullo

Didn't you notice I was talking to Lukongsimi about the miraculous night journey of the Prophet? 

But even so, that is not a criterion for prophethood, that God must go and speak to him directly. There are many prophets mentioned in the Bible, like King David or John the Baptist for example. Did the many prophets all have direct person to person conversations with God?
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(20-03-2024, 12:54 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Right 
U see the power of Jesus ‘s resurrection even the dead can rise up
It will occur again during the second coming of Christ the rapture

Earlier, you deny the zombies. Now you agree zombies were walking about in downtown Jerusalem on that day.

I won't ridicule what you believe.
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(20-03-2024, 12:57 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Hullo

Didn't you notice I was talking to Lukongsimi about the miraculous night journey of the Prophet? 

But even so, that is not a criterion for prophethood, that God must go and speak to him directly. There are many prophets mentioned in the Bible, like King David or John the Baptist for example. Did the many prophets all have direct person to person conversations with God?
But your god is allah

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-03-2024, 01:01 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  But your god is allah

So too is Jesus's God Allah.

Go read the Bible in Arabic and you will see Allah on practically every page.

If you remember the movie The Passion, the director wanted to make it authentic so he made the actor for Jesus call out "Ilahi", from which we get the proper name Allah.

What is the name for God in Aramaic? Allaha
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(20-03-2024, 01:04 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So too is Jesus's God Allah.

Go read the Bible in Arabic and you will see Allah on practically every page.

If you remember the movie The Passion, the director wanted to make it authentic so he made the actor for Jesus call out "Ilahi", from which we get the proper name Allah.

What is the name for God in Aramaic? Allaha

God is Abba father

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-03-2024, 12:51 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  How is one considered a prophet if God does not speak to him directly? Big Grin

Again, why were there 3 large Israelite tribes right there waiting for the arrival of a prophet?

How did they knew the prophet would appear there? Because it is written in their scriptures.
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Are Yahweh and Allah the same?
Are Yahweh and Allah The Same Deity? Mark said Yahweh and Allah are not the same deity. He used the analogy of talking about a friend at a class reunion to illustrate the variances between a Christian's view of Yahweh and a Muslim's beliefs about Allah.

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-03-2024, 01:04 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So too is Jesus's God Allah.

Go read the Bible in Arabic and you will see Allah on practically every page.

If you remember the movie The Passion, the director wanted to make it authentic so he made the actor for Jesus call out "Ilahi", from which we get the proper name Allah.

What is the name for God in Aramaic? Allaha

Yahweh and not Allah
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(20-03-2024, 01:04 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So too is Jesus's God Allah.

Go read the Bible in Arabic and you will see Allah on practically every page.

If you remember the movie The Passion, the director wanted to make it authentic so he made the actor for Jesus call out "Ilahi", from which we get the proper name Allah.

What is the name for God in Aramaic? Allaha

Don anyhow falsify leh
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(20-03-2024, 01:10 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  God is Abba father

Ok. 

And Jesus said the Father is the ONLY TRUE GOD.

If the Father is the ONLY true God and you believe the son is God, doesn't that automatically make the son a false God because Jesus already said the Father is the ONLY true God?
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(20-03-2024, 01:17 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Don anyhow falsify leh

I'm not falsifying anything. 

I'm explaining what many Christians don't know because of the lack of knowledge of the Semitic ancient language.

Fyi, the ancient Arabic, Hebrew, and Aramaic are all sister languages. I'm trained in one of them.
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(20-03-2024, 01:17 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ok. 

And Jesus said he is the ONLY TRUE GOD.

If the Father is the ONLY true God and you believe the son is God, doesn't that automatically make the son a false God because Jesus already said the Father is the ONLY true God?
Father and Son are 1

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-03-2024, 01:20 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Father and Son are 1

And the disciples were also included.

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(20-03-2024, 01:17 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ok. 

And Jesus said the Father is the ONLY TRUE GOD.

If the Father is the ONLY true God and you believe the son is God, doesn't that automatically make the son a false God because Jesus already said the Father is the ONLY true God?

jesus is the ultimate revelation of god. He is a mirror of god
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(20-03-2024, 01:22 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  [Image: GsXZ4Sx.jpg]
For Muslim Christians to address

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(20-03-2024, 01:29 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  jesus is the ultimate revelation of god. He is a mirror of god

Is Jesus God to you? Do you pray to Jesus?
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(20-03-2024, 01:34 AM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Is Jesus God to you? Do you pray to Jesus?

You pray In the name of the Father,son and the Holy spirit. Which part do you not understand? They are all one.
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(20-03-2024, 01:38 AM)pinkpanther Wrote:  You pray In the name of the Father,son and the Holy spirit. Which part do you not understand?

It is very difficult for me to understand. 

Do you direct your prayer to just 1 of the 3 or all 3 at the same time?
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