(11-04-2025, 09:58 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Yes, I have been through many discussions with Christians on the Trinity. None of them can show me any proof of any prophets of God, including Jesus, teaching the idea of the Trinity. Never. All they ever did was to show me some ambiguous verses that could, if we bend them really hard, support the idea of the Trinity.
Jesus said, the most important commandment is to say God is One. I will hold on to that with all my might, and I will alter nor add even an iota to that command. If that is my faith, am I on the right path? Please tell.
I recall you saying that Jesus had never declared, "I am God." I suppose you would believe He's God if you heard it straight from the horse's mouth. (Christ Himself) Am I right to say that? Mind you, there are a great many
unambiguous verses attesting to the deity of Christ. Did you do your homework before the debates with Christians in other forums and here?
First off, Jehovah, or, more properly, Yahweh, is the special name given by God for Himself. It's the name revealed to Moses in Exodus 3:14 when God said, "I AM WHO I AM." The name has connotations of God's self-existence. Yahweh is only used to refer to the one true God. Isaiah wrote, "I am the Lord (Yahweh): that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images" (42:8). Little wonder, then, that the Jews picked up stones and accused Jesus of blasphemy when He claimed to be Jehovah.
Jesus said, "I am the good shepherd" (John 10:11). Equally, the OT said, "The Lord (Yahweh) is my shepherd (Ps 23:1). Jesus claimed to be the judge of all people (Matt 25:31-46; John 5:27-30). Equally, the prophet Joel quotes Yahweh as saying, "For there I will sit to judge all the surrounding nations" (Joel 3:12).
Jesus prayed, "Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You
before the world was" (John 17:5). Equally, Yahweh of the OT said, "I will not give My glory to another" (Isa 42:8). Further, Jesus spoke of Himself as the "bridegroom" (Matt 25:1). The OT identifies Yahweh in a similar vein (Isa 62:5; Hosea 2:16).
The risen Christ says, "I am the first and the last" (Rev 1:17) - precisely the words used by Yahweh in Isaiah 44:6. While the psalmist declares, "(Yahweh) is my light (Ps 27:1), Jesus said, "I am the Light of the world" (John 8:12). Perhaps the strongest claim Jesus made to be Yahweh is in John 8:58, where He says, "Before Abraham was born, I Am." This statement claims not only existence before Abraham, but equality with the "I AM" of Exodus 3:14. The same claim is made in Mark 14:62 and John 18:5-6.
If time permits, I can go on and on about the divinity of Jesus Christ, backed up with scriptural texts, but I think that's enough for now.