[Ali Imran]

Of course you and your own kind have rarely been pressed for answers over the dilemma of evil, thanks to your most forgiving Allah who's also seen more as a remote judge who's not personally involved with mankind. With the literary beauty of the Quran along with adherents' service, submission, allegiance to God on the front burner, the theodicy isn't really that important in the grand scheme of things.

For us skepticism regarding matters of the Christian faith is, of course, nothing new. The Bible itself mentions many people who were skeptics or who had questions and doubts about such matters. How did Jesus respond to these people who had honest doubts and questions? Did He say they weren't ready to hear it? Did He condemn them or tell them to put away their questions, suppress their doubts, and simply believe? No of course. Jesus lovingly and graciously gave them answers and evidence.

Our kind doesn't have that dilemma, as I've explained to you already in my previous post. Jesus said the one to come after him will show us the full picture. Our kind have the full picture and you don't ergo the dilemma you're having.

Jesus also said to his disciples that he still had plenty to teach but the people weren't ready yet.

[Lukongsimi]

Children stealing lollipop quite serious
if you don’t discipline them,grows up steal money steal people’s wife n end up being killed.

[pinkpanther]

Children stealing lollipop quite serious
if you don’t discipline them,grows up steal money steal people’s wife n end up being killed.

They believe in doing good deeds to cover all the wrongs....steal lollipop is one wrong but save the lives of 10 ants is still positive + 9...

[pinkpanther]

The Bible says in many ways, and many times, that Jesus is the final prophet, and there would be no prophets after Him....


The prophesy ended with Christ.

Jesus came directly from God and told us what God wanted us to know. We must now either accept or reject God's message. No one else can have a message Jesus didn't know, or have a message superior to Jesus' message.

By ending the gift of prophesy, God invalidated every wolf in sheep's clothing who would fool His flock.

Jesus is all the prophet anyone needs. Jesus said, “You are complete in Me"

[Lukongsimi]

The Bible says in many ways, and many times, that Jesus is the final prophet, and there would be no prophets after Him....


The prophesy ended with Christ.

Jesus came directly from God and told us what God wanted us to know. We must now either accept or reject God's message. No one else can have a message Jesus didn't know, or have a message superior to Jesus' message.

By ending the gift of prophesy, God invalidated every wolf in sheep's clothing who would fool His flock.

Jesus is all the prophet anyone needs. Jesus said, “You are complete in Me"

Right..why need another prophet to finish His mission on earth it’s already done.
Jesus said many false prophets will rise,whoever endures to the end will be saved.

[cheekopekman]

Children stealing lollipop quite serious
if you don’t discipline them,grows up steal money steal people’s wife n end up being killed.

White lies or black lies all are lies lah!  A lie is a sin lah!

[Lukongsimi]

White lies or black lies all are lies lah!  A lie is a sin lah!

U ever stole a lollipop ? Lol

[cheekopekman]

U ever stole a lollipop ? Lol

More than 1 lah!

[Lukongsimi]

More than 1 lah!

No wonder lah

[Hope]

The Bible says in many ways, and many times, that Jesus is the final prophet, and there would be no prophets after Him....


The prophesy ended with Christ.

Jesus came directly from God and told us what God wanted us to know. We must now either accept or reject God's message. No one else can have a message Jesus didn't know, or have a message superior to Jesus' message.

By ending the gift of prophesy, God invalidated every wolf in sheep's clothing who would fool His flock.

Jesus is all the prophet anyone needs. Jesus said, “You are complete in Me"

As per your post,Jesus has become a prophet now.So desperate 😢

As per your post, Jesus knew everything. Did he know the hour?🙄

As per your post, Jesus came directly from God. It means he is not a god as Christian claimed.🤪

[pinkpanther]

As per your post,Jesus has become a prophet now.So desperate 😢

As per your post, Jesus knew everything. Did he know the hour?🙄

As per your post, Jesus came directly from God. It means he is not a god as Christian claimed.🤪

Jesus is a more than a prophet...
There are many verses which he claimed to be God...


I am curious about why Allah would allow an innocent life to be sacrificed on the cross instead of Jesus. I believed that Allah is Merciful...so why would He take another person's life unjustly?

Some fellow said it was not necessary for Jesus to die...  but someone die on His behalf is OK?

[pinkpanther]

As per your post,Jesus has become a prophet now.So desperate 😢

As per your post, Jesus knew everything. Did he know the hour?🙄

As per your post, Jesus came directly from God. It means he is not a god as Christian claimed.🤪

At least you can defend your Quran and bring along some Quranic verses to our attention...sadly your friend Alizabird can only run away from the Quran to the Bible 

[Hope]

Jesus is a more than a prophet...
There are many verses which he claimed to be God...


I am curious about why Allah would allow an innocent life to be sacrificed on the cross instead of Jesus. I believed that Allah is Merciful...so why would He take another person's life unjustly?

Some fellow said it was not necessary for Jesus to die...  but someone die on His behalf is OK?

As per Quran no one was killed on the cross.

[Hope]

At least you can defend your Quran and bring along some Quranic verses to our attention...sadly your friend Alizabird can only run away from the Quran to the Bible 

Are you scared of him for exposing the Bible?

[pinkpanther]

As per Quran no one was killed on the cross.

Then who died on the cross? 

We killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” But they neither killed nor crucified him—it was only made to appear so. Even those who argue for this ˹crucifixion˺ are in doubt.

[pinkpanther]

Are you scared of him for exposing the Bible?

 I am more afraid for him to expose his own stupidity ...
In football sense...he is just a player who only goes on the attack but cannot defend..
Nice foot works..Good to see....but useless infront of the goal...

[Hope]

Then who died on the cross? 

We killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” But they neither killed nor crucified him—it was only made to appear so. Even those who argue for this ˹crucifixion˺ are in doubt.

“made appear”
It doesn’t mean someone has died on the cross.

[Hope]

 I am more afraid for him to expose his own stupidity ...
In football sense...he is just a player who only goes on the attack but cannot defend..
Nice foot works..Good to see....but useless infront of the goal...

He tries to bring you out from darkness and ignorance.

[Lukongsimi]

He tries to bring you out from darkness and ignorance.

Christians are the light of the world 
How can be in darkness
In Matthew 5:14-16, Jesus compares his followers to light, saying we "are the light of the world," unable to be hidden. No one puts a lamp under a bowl because a lamp is designed to help people see in dark places. Christ's words and actions showed the true nature of the world around Him.

[Lukongsimi]

“made appear”
It doesn’t mean someone has died on the cross.

U don’t believe doesn’t mean Jesus never died on the cross

[pinkpanther]

“made appear”
It doesn’t mean someone has died on the cross.

Surah An-Nisa (4:157): "And [for] their saying, 'Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, 'Eesaa, the son of Maryam.' And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain

This innocent person was made to resemble Jesus and die in his place! If he did not die, then there is no need to mention this person in the Quran

[pinkpanther]

He tries to bring you out from darkness and ignorance.

 Bro, he is the darkness.... I once asked him how he would feel if his daughter were to marry a ruch Muslim man who had multiple wives. He seemed completely indifferent. Her happiness doesn’t seem to concern him at all....his only focus is on the wealth she ought to have to take care of herself....

He enjoys boasting about the success of his soft porn business and the size of his fish pond, this is not what a person who brings light to others will say...

[Hope]

Christians are the light of the world 
How can be in darkness
In Matthew 5:14-16, Jesus compares his followers to light, saying we "are the light of the world," unable to be hidden. No one puts a lamp under a bowl because a lamp is designed to help people see in dark places. Christ's words and actions showed the true nature of the world around Him.

Which group of Christian?
There are 45000 groups .

[Hope]

Surah An-Nisa (4:157): "And [for] their saying, 'Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, 'Eesaa, the son of Maryam.' And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain

This innocent person was made to resemble Jesus and die in his place! If he did not die, then there is no need to mention this person in the Quran

Do you believe Jesus was crucified?

[pinkpanther]

Do you believe Jesus was crucified?

There is no real reason to doubt it. The Romans crucified people all over the place...

[S I M T A N]

I didn't see that particular offer from Jesus anywhere in the Bible.

How come?

"I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me." (John 14:6)

"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. (John 5:24)

"For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believe in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day." (6:40)

Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies, and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?" (11:25-26)

[S I M T A N]

I'm not sure what you mean by evil. To you, a child stealing a lollipop is the same as a mass murderer.

Haven't you heard of "yawm al akhirah", aka judgment day? That's when we all get to see those who choose to do evil face justice. 

We are told to expect tests here on earth, of various kinds, as explained in the Quran 2:155. These may cause us to suffer. For those who are patient, a great reward is promised. So there, a simple answer to your great 'evil and suffering' question. If we want to see the picture, it is now showing in Palestine. One side doing great evil and another side is going through great suffering. Evil and suffering.

The reason why you fail to see the 'oneness' of sin is because you operate with a totally different value system from that of the God of the Scripture. In God's economy, sin is not measured in terms of severity, in the way your faith sets down. Any sin, however slight or however heinous, is a privation of obedience, a lawlessness, and the penalty for 'unredeemed' sin is death.

[Ali Imran]

The reason why you fail to see the 'oneness' of sin is because you operate with a totally different value system from that of the God of the Scripture. In God's economy, sin is not measured in terms of severity, in the way your faith sets down. Any sin, however slight or however heinous, is a privation of obedience, a lawlessness, and the penalty for 'unredeemed' sin is death.

Ezekiel said differently. What Ezekiel said gives us a picture of a merciful God, like in the Quran. If we repent, mend our ways, and obey the Law, our sins will be wiped clean.

[Ali Imran]

But if a wicked person turns away from all the sins they have committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, that person will surely live; they will not die. None of the offenses they have committed will be remembered against them. Because of the righteous things they have done, they will live. - Ezekiel 18 NIV

[S I M T A N]

The origin of evil is a riddle to us, but there's a simpler and the most common question people have regarding God: Why does a loving God allow evil and suffering? Here's a poser for you - what do you propose God should do about it?

I'm not sure what you mean by evil. To you, a child stealing a lollipop is the same as a mass murderer.

Haven't you heard of "yawm al akhirah", aka judgment day? That's when we all get to see those who choose to do evil face justice. 

We are told to expect tests here on earth, of various kinds, as explained in the Quran 2:155. These may cause us to suffer. For those who are patient, a great reward is promised. So there, a simple answer to your great 'evil and suffering' question. If we want to see the picture, it is now showing in Palestine. One side doing great evil and another side is going through great suffering. Evil and suffering.

To stop evil and suffering, God would have to stop every act that causes any suffering. That would mean stopping those causing the suffering, like murderers, scammers, adulterers, liars, criminals, etc.. Wouldn't that also mean He would have to put a stop to you and me? Haven't we, by our own actions, caused some of the suffering that exists in the world? Haven't we offended people or hurt their feelings?

God hasn't destroyed evil because He would have to destroy us. By permitting evil and suffering to continue, God is actually showing the world mercy. God loves all people He has created. Throughout the Bible. we repeatedly see God's compassion for those who need His forgiveness: "Say to them. 'As I live!' declares the Lord God, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn back, turn back from your evil ways!" (Ezek 33:11) God truly desires everyone to be saved and no one to perish eternally. Yet it is also true that no one can be saved who does not "come to the knowledge of the truth" about Jesus Christ.                                                                                     

The Bible says that a day is coming when God will stop evil (2 Peter 3:7-13). He will judge sinners, put them away forever, and create a new heaven and a new earth, where there'll no longer be any death, mourning, crying or pain (Rev 21:4). In the meantime, God is using the existing suffering for good (Rom 8:28; Phil 1:12) Often, when people are suffering, they turn to God and receive the kind of help they truly need.