Scripture readings for Christmas

(19-07-2025, 03:29 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Jesus is not human He is God in the flesh since no man can be sacrificed for humanity sins !

So you're saying God died?

That presents another contradiction. In the Bible, it says God cannot die.
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(19-07-2025, 03:25 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ok. Let's go with that.

So the authors in the OT say God abhors human sacrifice.

But the authors in the NT say God sacrificed a human.

Do you see a contradiction?

Why is it important for you to ask silly questions? I have already explain clearly 

The Old Testament prohibits human sacrifice and uses animal sacrifices as symbolic offerings.

The New Testament presents Jesus as the divine sacrifice that fulfills the law, making further sacrifices unnecessary and emphasizing spiritual rather than literal offerings...
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(19-07-2025, 03:36 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Why is it important for you to ask silly questions? I have already explain clearly 

The Old Testament prohibits human sacrifice and uses animal sacrifices as symbolic offerings.

The New Testament presents Jesus as the divine sacrifice that fulfills the law, making further sacrifices unnecessary and emphasizing spiritual rather than literal offerings...

So God abhors human sacrifice, and God sacrificed a human?

You don't see a contradiction between what God says and what God does?
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(19-07-2025, 03:27 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I don't agree with what you're alleging, so I'm ignoring that.

Why are you ignoring the situation when the prophecies are unfolding? Are you still claiming to support the "free Palestinians," because recently you've been silent on this issue? Have you changed your stance and begun to side with the Zionists? You should follow what your scriptures advise, or you risk ending up as a kufir
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(19-07-2025, 03:42 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Why are you ignoring the situation when the prophecies are unfolding? Are you still claiming to support the "free Palestinians," because recently you've been silent on this issue? Have you changed your stance and begun to side with the Zionists? You should follow what your scriptures advise, or you risk ending up as a kufir

Ok noted.

Let's carry on discussing the human sacrifice.
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(19-07-2025, 03:40 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So God abhors human sacrifice, and God sacrificed a human?

You don't see a contradiction between what God says and what God does?

Jesus, considered sinless and divine, voluntarily offered Himself as a sacrifice to pay the penalty for humanity's sins...

That is why Jesus is sinless because He has a purpose to fulfill . ...compare Him to the Jesus of the Quran ...He was also sinless but it serves no purpose...so there is no need for Allah to create a sinless Jesus if there is no need to utilise him...

A sinless Jesus, the kalimathu of Allah was zapped up into heaven and that is the end of the story from the Quran!! Laughing Allah creates a sinless Jesus for fun only? At least Allah created a lecherous Muhammad and he fulfilled his purposes...he had 11 wives  Big Grin
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(19-07-2025, 03:46 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Ok noted.

Let's carry on discussing the human sacrifice.

Isaac or Ishmael?
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(19-07-2025, 03:56 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Isaac or Ishmael?

I don't know and I don't need to know.
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(19-07-2025, 03:55 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Jesus, considered sinless and divine, voluntarily offered Himself as a sacrifice to pay the penalty for humanity's sins...

That is why Jesus is sinless because He has a purpose to fulfill . ...compare Him to the Jesus of the Quran ...He was also sinless but it serves no purpose...so there is no need for Allah to create a sinless Jesus if there is no need to utilise him...

A sinless Jesus, the kalimathu of Allah was zapped up into heaven and that is the end of the story from the Quran!! Laughing Allah creates a sinless Jesus for fun only? At least Allah created a lecherous Muhammad and he fulfilled his purposes...he had 11 wives  Big Grin

You totally ignored the question but instead, you insulted my prophet.

That's what Christians like you do. I've seen this so many times already, in all my experience debating with Christians. When they cannot answer, they will insult our prophet.

Shame on you.
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(19-07-2025, 04:00 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You totally ignored the question but instead, you insulted my prophet.

That's what Christians like you do. I've seen this so many times already, in all my experience debating with Christians. When they cannot answer, they will insult our prophet.

Shame on you.

Look..Aisha was 9 when Muhammad consummate the marriage...

OK since you don like the word "lecherous" then let me replace with "passionate"...sounds good? Big Grin

My point is he being passionate... has fulfilled his obligation... Big Grin
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(19-07-2025, 04:06 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Look..Aisha was 9 when Muhammad consummate the marriage...

OK since you don like the word "lecherous" then let me replace with "passionate"...sounds good? Big Grin

My point is he being passionate... has fulfilled his obligation... Big Grin

You've lost the debate. That's why you want to start insulting our prophet.
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(19-07-2025, 03:36 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  So you're saying God died?

That presents another contradiction. In the Bible, it says God cannot die.
The flesh died for 3 days
spirit cannot die

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(19-07-2025, 04:08 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You've lost the debate. That's why you want to start insulting our prophet.
If it’s not true u wont get hurt lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(19-07-2025, 04:00 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You totally ignored the question but instead, you insulted my prophet.

That's what Christians like you do. I've seen this so many times already, in all my experience debating with Christians. When they cannot answer, they will insult our prophet.

Shame on you.

Angry Liao then don’t debate our belief loh 
Want to attack but kena hurt easily 
Lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(19-07-2025, 04:08 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You've lost the debate. That's why you want to start insulting our prophet.


Look, I can't quite find the right words to describe Muhammad, who had 11 wives yet still fulfilled his obligations to serve God and care for them. Big Grin

This isn't meant as an insult...
Lecherous is not an insult lah...men are lecherous...are you ashame at that aspect?
I'm lecherous when I'm younger....there is nothing wrong....
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(19-07-2025, 03:57 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  I don't know and I don't need to know.
 Then why ask about the sacrifice ?

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(19-07-2025, 04:17 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Look, I can't quite find the right words to describe Muhammad, who had 11 wives yet still fulfilled his obligations to serve God and care for them. Big Grin

This isn't meant as an insult...
He must be very hardworking day and nite lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(19-07-2025, 04:13 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  The flesh died for 3 days
spirit cannot die

Is the flesh God or human?
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(19-07-2025, 04:17 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Look, I can't quite find the right words to describe Muhammad, who had 11 wives yet still fulfilled his obligations to serve God and care for them. Big Grin

This isn't meant as an insult...
Lecherous is not an insult lah...men are lecherous...are you ashame at that aspect?
I'm lecherous when I'm younger....there is nothing wrong....

You're lost the debate and now you want to change the subject.

LOL
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Now that the 2 Christians here wanna start insulting our prophet, I will take my leave.
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(19-07-2025, 04:28 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Is the flesh God or human?

God resides in human 
That is why needs a virgin woman to bear Him

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(19-07-2025, 04:30 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  Now that the 2 Christians here wanna start insulting our prophet, I will take my leave.
Where got insults ?
U lost and elak again

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(19-07-2025, 04:28 PM)Ali Imran Wrote:  You're lost the debate and now you want to change the subject.

LOL

In football terms, this is a dangerous tackle but not enough to get send off!

I did not lose the debate ...I'm showing you that a sinless Jesus came with a purpose...you don let that sinless self go to waste...God needs to utilize that aspect some how... just like how God created a passionate Muhammad and he fulfilled his purpose of having 11 wives  Big Grin
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(19-07-2025, 03:55 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Jesus, considered sinless and divine, voluntarily offered Himself as a sacrifice to pay the penalty for humanity's sins...

That is why Jesus is sinless because He has a purpose to fulfill . ...compare Him to the Jesus of the Quran ...He was also sinless but it serves no purpose...so there is no need for Allah to create a sinless Jesus if there is no need to utilise him...

A sinless Jesus, the kalimathu of Allah was zapped up into heaven and that is the end of the story from the Quran!! Laughing Allah creates a sinless Jesus for fun only? At least Allah created a lecherous Muhammad and he fulfilled his purposes...he had 11 wives  Big Grin


Muh  sacrificed himself for 11 women for his needs

Jesus sacrificed himself for all humanity to be saved
So who is worthy to be praised lol

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(19-07-2025, 04:38 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  Muh  sacrificed himself for 11 women for his needs

Jesus sacrificed himself for all humanity to be saved
So who is worthy to be praised lol

Jesus doesnt have the time for women  Big Grin
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(19-07-2025, 04:44 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:  Jesus doesnt have the time for women  Big Grin
Jesus is sinless  Big Grin

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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https://youtu.be/wy_iD6Lf6MY?si=lccscYQaKtD24ZNs

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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The last words of muh and Jesus 

https://youtube.com/shorts/ZGDEhrt6z54?s...S94CJK-On0
Muh cursed while Jesus forgives

 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(19-07-2025, 04:56 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  https://youtu.be/wy_iD6Lf6MY?si=lccscYQaKtD24ZNs

Oyk likes his videos  Big Grin
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(19-07-2025, 04:21 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote:  He must be very hardworking day and nite lol

I wouldn't want to be in his shoes... Big Grin
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