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(19-09-2024, 10:16 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Jesus said that he who taught people to abandon the law would be called the least in the next world.
Did Jesus mean Paul?
That time Paul was not chosen yet to preach
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(19-09-2024, 11:30 AM)Hope Wrote: We are following real. You are following angmo blue eyes, blonde hair
U never saw Jesus how u know?
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(19-09-2024, 11:44 AM)Hope Wrote: They also want to go to heaven 😂 with free visa
Allah cannot stop China from destroying thousands of mosques?
Why Allah leave 50000 mosques empty in Iran?
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(19-09-2024, 05:56 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: The difference between 1000 and 50000yrs is 49000 years you know....not 1 or 2 years you know...so how can both be correct
First two verses talk about Allah’s matters .
Third verse talk about Angels matter .
What I see in these verses are hidden meanings of speed, location of Throne of Allah and the distance from earth to throne of Allah.
As per these three verses, I believe matters of Allah reach 50 times faster than flight of angels.
As per science speed of light is 300000km/hr and speed of sound 1235Km/ hr
Distance between earth and sun is 150.28 million Kilometres
Distance between earth and mars is 223.84 million Kilometres
I believe both 1000 years and 50000 years are correct.
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(19-09-2024, 11:36 AM)Hope Wrote: Most of the translators using the name Jesus.
If you don’t want anyone to use, you should take the copy right.
That is why I said that your Quran English translated no standard at all....flip flop roti prata....here says Jesus..there says Isa...so many mistakes!!
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(19-09-2024, 11:49 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: That time Paul was not chosen yet to preach
He started preaching discarding the law after he said he was chosen.
I remind you because it doesn't seem to enter your brain. Jesus said, according to the Bible, the one who discards the law and teaches others to do that will be in hell in the hereafter.
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(19-09-2024, 12:01 PM)Hope Wrote: First two verses talk about Allah’s matters .
Third verse talk about Angels matter .
What I see in these verses are hidden meanings of speed, location of Throne of Allah and the distance from earth to throne of Allah.
As per these three verses, I believe matters of Allah reach 50 times faster than flight of angels.
As per science speed of light is 300000km/hr and speed of sound 1235Km/ hr
I believe both 1000 months and 50000 months are correct.

I like you!! Now you are applying science and Maths at one go...but your answer is in months....According to Allah one day..it is 1000 years or 50000 years?
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(19-09-2024, 11:50 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: U never saw Jesus how u know?
You said you saw Jesus and you believe the Trinity.
Other Christians said they saw Jesus and they don't believe in the Trinity.
Which one is the correct one? Is there a clear answer that can be accepted by simpletons, the intellectuals, and all in between?
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For us, there is no dispute. ALL MUSLIMS agree upon the Law and it will stay for as long the world continues, just like how Jesus said according to the Bible. Ask any Muslims around you if fasting in Ramadan is a must and they will say yes. It is the Law. Is praying 5 times a day a must? Yes, it is the Law.
God's religion must be clear, concise and easy to follow. That is Islam.
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Where can I find Kitab al-Mut'ah
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(19-09-2024, 09:01 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: Jesus hand-picked his disciples and gave them a lot of teachings, like how important it is to keep the Law. Jesus also told his disciples that one who comes teaching people to discard the law will be in hell.
Then Paul came along with the teaching to discard the law. Do you think the disciples would remember what Jesus said to them about those who teach others to discard the law? Surely yes, they remembered what Jesus taught them. That is why they are against Paul.
Do you know why the name Saul was later changed to Paul, Ali my friend?

Saul was a Jewish name and Paul was a Greek name lah!

He was on his way to arrest Christians in Damascus in Syria then he met Jesus along the way and the Lord turned him around with a new name Paul to bring the gospel to Rome where he got the authorised decree from Emperor Nero lah! Jesus said that the apostle must suffer much for His name's sake lah! When he finally met Emperor Nero, he was executed lah!
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(19-09-2024, 12:07 PM)pinkpanther Wrote:
I like you!! Now you are applying science and Maths at one go...but your answer is in months....According to Allah one day..it is 1000 years or 50000 years?
My mistake . It should be years
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(19-09-2024, 12:27 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: Do you know why the name Saul was later changed to Paul, Ali my friend?
Saul was a Jewish name and Paul was a Greek name lah!
He was on his way to arrest Christians in Damascus in Syria then he met Jesus along the way and the Lord turned him around with a new name Paul to bring the gospel to Rome where he got the authorised decree from Emperor Nero lah! Jesus said that the apostle must suffer much for His name's sake lah! When he finally met Emperor Nero, he was executed lah!
Yes, I know about the road to Damascus. I've read the Bible and studied the details.
First Jesus said to his disciples that the one to come teaching people to discard the law will be in hell. And after Jesus went away, he sent Paul to teach people to discard the law? What kind of a game is that?
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(19-09-2024, 12:32 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: Yes, I know about the road to Damascus. I've read the Bible and studied the details.
First Jesus said to his disciples that the one to come teaching people to discard the law will be in hell. And after Jesus went away, he sent Paul to teach people to discard the law? What kind of a game is that?
Good lah Ali, we are on the same page about that Damascus story!

Jesus said that He didn't come to abolish the Law but to fulfill it and all the prophecies of the ancient prophets were fulfilled in Jesus Christ lah! As far as Paul was concerned, grace was above the law lah! If you read his epistles to all the churches, you will notice that he kept on mentioning about grace, not law lah! I think that's where the confusion started lah! "For by grace you have been saved..." he told the Ephesian Christians lah!
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(19-09-2024, 12:09 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: You said you saw Jesus and you believe the Trinity.
Other Christians said they saw Jesus and they don't believe in the Trinity.
Which one is the correct one? Is there a clear answer that can be accepted by simpletons, the intellectuals, and all in between?
Unless Jesus told me is wrong then I believe
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like him" (Proverbs 26:4)
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(19-09-2024, 12:15 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: For us, there is no dispute. ALL MUSLIMS agree upon the Law and it will stay for as long the world continues, just like how Jesus said according to the Bible. Ask any Muslims around you if fasting in Ramadan is a must and they will say yes. It is the Law. Is praying 5 times a day a must? Yes, it is the Law.
God's religion must be clear, concise and easy to follow. That is Islam.
Obey law then go kill n fornicate got use?
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(19-09-2024, 12:43 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: Obey law then go kill n fornicate got use?
That is not obeying the law.
The law consists of do and don't do.
Do fast. Do pray 5 times. Do give Zakah. etc
Don't kill. Don't fornicate. Don't deal in interest. etc
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