SG Talk

(16-03-2024, 07:52 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]...

I wish I could tell you to listen carefully to the words of Jesus but that is an impossible task because we do not have the words of Jesus to get a clear picture of his teachings. You see, Jesus didn't speak in English yet we can only read the Gospels in English. It was translated into English from Greek and Jesus also didn't speak Greek. He spoke Aramaic to his audience. So, what we have of the Gospels in our hands has gone through 2 human translators, Aramaic to Greek, and Greek to English. Do you know what happens when a speech gets translated? We gonna lose some nuance, at the very least.

So, it is very difficult to know exactly what Jesus said. But even so, we have some unambiguous recordings of what Jesus said. For example, he said, "I can of myself do nothing." or when he said he doesn't know the Hour. However, none of these recorded verses of Jesus's words says "I am God" or "Worship me".

In the Old Testament, we hear God saying "For I am God, and there is no other". Yet you say there is another. I am so afraid FOR you for saying that. You have broken the very first commandment.

Listen to me pengyu. Jesus has a God. He said so unambiguously. Jesus also said the Father is the only true God. So, think about it carefully pengyu. You believe Jesus is God based on some ambiguous verses like "I and the Father are one" which has more than 1 meaning, ergo ambiguous. You ignore the verses where Jesus said he is not God, and not equal to God. 

On this blessed night, I invite you to Islam, the religion of Jesus, Moses, Isaac and Jacob, peace be upon them all. Worship none but God alone and you will be successful in this world and in the hereafter.

(16-03-2024, 11:51 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]I wish I could tell you to listen carefully to the words of Jesus but that is an impossible task because we do not have the words of Jesus to get a clear picture of his teachings. You see, Jesus didn't speak in English yet we can only read the Gospels in English. It was translated into English from Greek and Jesus also didn't speak Greek. He spoke Aramaic to his audience. So, what we have of the Gospels in our hands has gone through 2 human translators, Aramaic to Greek, and Greek to English. Do you know what happens when a speech gets translated? We gonna lose some nuance, at the very least.

So, it is very difficult to know exactly what Jesus said. But even so, we have some unambiguous recordings of what Jesus said. For example, he said, "I can of myself do nothing." or when he said he doesn't know the Hour. However, none of these recorded verses of Jesus's words says "I am God" or "Worship me".

In the Old Testament, we hear God saying "For I am God, and there is no other". Yet you say there is another. I am so afraid FOR you for saying that. You have broken the very first commandment.

Listen to me pengyu. Jesus has a God. He said so unambiguously. Jesus also said the Father is the only true God. So, think about it carefully pengyu. You believe Jesus is God based on some ambiguous verses like "I and the Father are one" which has more than 1 meaning, ergo ambiguous. You ignore the verses where Jesus said he is not God, and not equal to God. 

On this blessed night, I invite you to Islam, the religion of Jesus, Moses, Isaac and Jacob, peace be upon them all. Worship none but God alone and you will be successful in this world and in the hereafter.

Pengyu....I think I am past the stage of cutting the foreskin off my kukubird. I think I will pass 😄

(17-03-2024, 12:24 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Pengyu....I think I am past the stage of cutting the foreskin off my kukubird. I think I will pass 😄

Ok. We can still be friends.

(17-03-2024, 12:33 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Ok. We can still be friends.

We are all peace loving 

(17-03-2024, 01:27 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Why?

Why locust? It is a natural occurrence, happening all the time, year in and year out. 

It affects crop-producing nations and Saudi Arabia's main product is oil, not crops. 

Do you know what will happen to us when we die?

(17-03-2024, 06:24 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Why locust? It is a natural occurrence, happening all the time, year in and year out. 

It affects crop-producing nations and Saudi Arabia's main product is oil, not crops. 

Do you know what will happen to us when we die?

But first time affected the Mecca worship place why?
Warning from God?
Why worship the black  stone n not God?
Adam n eve were deceived by the serpent to eat the forbidden fruit

(17-03-2024, 06:24 AM)Ali Wrote: [ -> ]Do you know what will happen to us when we die?

U know? Tell us

(17-03-2024, 09:07 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]But first time affected the Mecca worship place why?
Warning from God?
Why worship the black  stone n not God?
Adam n eve were deceived by the serpent to eat the forbidden fruit

We don't worship the black stone. 

Affected? No it doesn't. Everything still go on as usual. 

Adam & Eve slipped and fell into transgression. We don't blame Eve for it or the serpent, like in Christianity. Both were at fault but surprisingly, only Adam was called up for questioning. But more importantly, they were forgiven. What is the original sin to you is the original forgiveness to us.

(17-03-2024, 09:13 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]U know? Tell us

Many of us will be screaming for help from our pastors or priests and none of them can come to help us.

Why are we screaming for our pastors or priests? Because we get our religion from them. The religion of Christianity came from men, not from God.

(17-03-2024, 10:34 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]We don't worship the black stone. 

Affected? No it doesn't. Everything still go on as usual. 

Adam & Eve slipped and fell into transgression. We don't blame Eve for it or the serpent, like in Christianity. Both were at fault but surprisingly, only Adam was called up for questioning. But more importantly, they were forgiven. What is the original sin to you is the original forgiveness to us.

who the fark forgive your SINS?

motherfarker muslim trying to pull a fast one
"What is the original sin to you is the original forgiveness to us. "




"who the fark forgive your SINS?"
TELL ME!

(17-03-2024, 09:07 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]But first time affected the Mecca worship place why?
Warning from God?
Why worship the black  stone n not God?
Adam n eve were deceived by the serpent to eat the forbidden fruit

prophet Muhammad prophesied that Kaaba will be destroyed.He even mentioned the name of the person.So Thunder ,shower ,flood and insect invading are not a big deal.There was a siege and gunfight in side the grand mosque in 1979.

Kaaba was built by Prophet Adam and Then Prophet Abraham .There is nothing inside.
Muslim use this building as a direction for daily prayers and to circumambulate during pilgrimage.

(17-03-2024, 10:55 AM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]who the fark forgive your SINS?

motherfarker muslim trying to pull a fast one
"What is the original sin to you is the original forgiveness to us. "




"who the fark forgive your SINS?"
TELL ME!

Calm down. Don't go over man. We can have a friendly discussion.

God is most forgiving and if we repent and seek God's forgiveness, God will forgive us.

(17-03-2024, 11:02 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Calm down. Don't go over man. We can have a friendly discussion.
God is most forgiving and if we repent and seek God's forgiveness, God will forgive us.

FARK YOU!

you farking muslim lair

it is Jesus NOT God

that why Muslim has yet to be forgiven of their sins


God do not forgive our sins directly




1 Peter 2:24 — The New International Version (NIV)

24 “He himself bore our sins” in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; “by his wounds you have been healed.”

Say, ˹O Prophet, that Allah says,˺ “O My servants who have exceeded the limits against their souls! Do not lose hope in Allah’s mercy, for Allah certainly forgives all sins.1 He is indeed the All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.(Quran 39:53)

“But indeed, I am the Perpetual Forgiver of whoever repents and believes and does righteousness and then continues in guidance.” (Quran 20: 82)

“Indeed, Allah loves those who are constantly repentant and loves those who purify themselves.” (Quran 2: 222)

(17-03-2024, 11:20 AM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]FARK YOU!

you farking muslim lair

it is Jesus NOT God

that why Muslim has yet to be forgiven of their sins


God do not forgive our sins directly




1 Peter 2:24 — The New International Version (NIV)

24 “He himself bore our sins” in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; “by his wounds you have been healed.”

Is this how Christian behaves? Vile and vulgar? C'mon man. Let's have a friendly discussion.

(17-03-2024, 11:20 AM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]God do not forgive our sins directly

Then why did Jesus ask us to seek God's forgiveness directly?

Remember the Lord's prayer?

(17-03-2024, 11:23 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Is this how Christian behaves? Vile and vulgar?

you BE SILENT! YOU DEMON FACTs TWISTER 

WE ALL KNOW YOU ARE THE DEMON INCARNATE!

YOU QUOTE FROM YOUR TWISTED SATANIC BIBLE!

you BE SILENT!

(17-03-2024, 10:37 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Many of us will be screaming for help from our pastors or priests and none of them can come to help us.

Why are we screaming for our pastors or priests? Because we get our religion from them. The religion of Christianity came from men, not from God.

U wrong Liao 
U have to call upon Jesus Christ to help u.
No man can help u
Only mislead us like u

(17-03-2024, 11:24 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Then why did Jesus ask us to seek God's forgiveness directly?

Remember the Lord's prayer?

the Lord prayer is written by who
Jesus right

it is Jesus praying to God

so his praying is from Him to God

we can recited the prayer cause Jesus comes for us
that does not mean God forgive our sins  directly

that why God send His Son
FOR WHAT ?
YOU FARKING DEMON!

(17-03-2024, 11:31 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]U wrong Liao 
U have to call upon Jesus Christ to help u.
No man can help u
Only mislead us like u

Jesus didn't teach you to worship him. He didn't teach you that God is a Trinity. Who taught you all that? Your church, the priests and pastors.

And if you call on Jesus, he will say to you, "I never knew you. Get away from me, you lawless people". - Matthew 7

(17-03-2024, 11:34 AM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]the Lord prayer is written by who
Jesus right

it is Jesus praying to God

so his praying is from Him to God

we can recited the prayer cause Jesus comes for us
that does not mean God forgive our sins  directly

that why God send His Son
FOR WHAT ?
YOU FARKING DEMON!

I should not engage you.

I'm sorry if I offended you.

(17-03-2024, 11:37 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Jesus didn't teach you to worship him. He didn't teach you that God is a Trinity. Who taught you all that? Your church, the priests and pastors.

And if you call on Jesus, he will say to you, "I never knew you. Get away from me, you lawless people". - Matthew 7

Those who deny Him like u.
Those who practise lawlessness

(17-03-2024, 11:38 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]So your God prays to God.

Okay.

the son pray to Father

YOU FARKING DEMON!


i tell you something you farking motherfarker DEMON

jesus has never talk to demon in FRIENDLY TERM
 


you get that you farking motherfarker DEMON

(17-03-2024, 11:40 AM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]the son pray to Father

YOU FARKING DEMON!

Why can't you be nice and civil?

(17-03-2024, 11:41 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Why can't you be nice and civil?

i tell you something you farking motherfarker DEMON

jesus has never talk to demon in FRIENDLY TERM
 


you get that you farking motherfarker DEMON

(17-03-2024, 11:41 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Why can't you be nice and civil?

Imagine a thief intruded your home n you are aware.
Will u say to him get lost u evil one 
Or come come in let me make a cup of kopi for u
Let’s discuss how much the thief demanded want from u?
Thief wanted your whole family dead n robbed.
N u said ok go ahead no problem?

(17-03-2024, 11:41 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Why can't you be nice and civil?

i ask you something

you think about it 

the Father send to Son for what?
FOR FARK IS IT?????


you get that you farking motherfarker DEMON

(17-03-2024, 11:48 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Imagine a thief intruded your home n you are aware.
Will u say to him get lost u evil one 
Or come come in let me make a cup of kopi for u
Let’s discuss how much the thief demanded want from u?
Thief wanted your whole family dead n robbed.
N u said ok go ahead no problem?

If Christians knock on my door and invite me to their religion, I will treat them with respect, invite them in and offer them some food and drinks. I will not think they are thieves.

So, I wonder why you think so badly of me. Maybe you have the demon in you trying to distract you away from the truth and keep you on the wrong path.