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Hilarious belief

it is hilarious until you see with your own eyes.As per Quran you get every thing even chicken meat like in this world but better version.
You get dwelling where water flows underneath.it was difficult to comprehend this 1400 years ago. Now we see our self in this world.
As per Quran you can get anything you desire.Now we can order anything on line in this world. My understanding is ,it could be something like this .
As per Islamic narrations , no reproduction,No sweat,No toilet , No hatred, no rat race ,No Aging, No death and etc.
As per Islamic narrations, at the moment only  Prophet Jesus is living there until his second coming.
There are seven heavens and hells.Jesus and other prophets will be in the highest heaven definitely.

(22-03-2024, 12:32 AM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Hilarious belief

it is hilarious until you see with your own eyes.As per Quran you get every thing even chicken meat like in this world but better version.
You get dwelling where water flows underneath.it was difficult to comprehend this 1400 years ago. Now we see our self in this world.
As per Quran you can get anything you desire.Now we can order anything on line in this world. My understanding is ,it could be something like this .
As per Islamic narrations , no reproduction,No sweat,No toilet , No hatred, no rat race ,No Aging, No death and etc.
As per Islamic narrations, at the moment only  Prophet Jesus is living there until his second coming.
There are seven heavens and hells.Jesus and other prophets will be in the highest heaven definitely.

7 heavens?
No sweat no pansai n no food?

Islam is a knowledge-based religion and all Muslims are encouraged to be students. The more knowledge you have, the more your faith will be strengthened. One cannot finish school in Islam. There is always more to learn. Allah says in the Quran that if all the seas were ink to write about the words of God, surely the seas would be exhausted, even if the seas were doubled.

Now, the opposite is true for you guys, as demonstrated in this thread. I only share a little bit of knowledge about the Bible and already some of you guys are calling me the devil for putting doubt into your faith. Is it that easy to put doubts into your faith? Is knowledge of the Bible going to put doubt in your faith? The answer is a resounding YES.

Think my friends. In the Quran, we often see this verse, "Why don't you think?" Yes, on that day, Allah will ask you that when you come to Him in a sorry state. So, think carefully.

In the last days many will fall away from faith to seducing spirit n doctrine of the devil.
Many false prophets will rise claiming to be Christ

(22-03-2024, 11:57 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Islam is a knowledge-based religion and all Muslims are encouraged to be students. The more knowledge you have, the more your faith will be strengthened. One cannot finish school in Islam. There is always more to learn. Allah says in the Quran that if all the seas were ink to write about the words of God, surely the seas would be exhausted, even if the seas were doubled.

Now, the opposite is true for you guys, as demonstrated in this thread. I only share a little bit of knowledge about the Bible and already some of you guys are calling me the devil for putting doubt into your faith. Is it that easy to put doubts into your faith? Is knowledge of the Bible going to put doubt in your faith? The answer is a resounding YES.

Think my friends. In the Quran, we often see this verse, "Why don't you think?" Yes, on that day, Allah will ask you that when you come to Him in a sorry state. So, think carefully.

Why don you publish your findings in the straits Times so that all will receive the good news.

Nothing to do go n find pain cut kkk?

(22-03-2024, 10:37 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]7 heavens?
No sweat no pansai n no food?

Have food,drink,fruit 
No pansai 
No sweat 
No age difference 


Mention of Seven Heavens in the Quran

1. He it is Who created for you all that is in the earth, and He directed Himself to the heaven, so He made them complete seven heavens, and He knows all things. (Surah 2, The Cow)
   
2. The seven heavens declare His glory and the earth (too), and those who are in them; and there is not a single thing but glorifies Him with His praise, but you do not understand their glorification; surely He is Forbearing, Forgiving. (Surah 17, The Children of Israel)
   
3. So He ordained them seven heavens in two periods, and revealed in every heaven its affair; and We adorned the lower heaven with brilliant stars and (made it) to guard; that is the decree of the Mighty, the Knowing. (Sura 41, Ha Mim)
   

(22-03-2024, 01:52 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Have food,drink,fruit 
No pansai 
No sweat 
No age difference 


Mention of Seven Heavens in the Quran

1. He it is Who created for you all that is in the earth, and He directed Himself to the heaven, so He made them complete seven heavens, and He knows all things. (Surah 2, The Cow)
   
2. The seven heavens declare His glory and the earth (too), and those who are in them; and there is not a single thing but glorifies Him with His praise, but you do not understand their glorification; surely He is Forbearing, Forgiving. (Surah 17, The Children of Israel)
   
3. So He ordained them seven heavens in two periods, and revealed in every heaven its affair; and We adorned the lower heaven with brilliant stars and (made it) to guard; that is the decree of the Mighty, the Knowing. (Sura 41, Ha Mim)
   

We have it in the bible 

”And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; and had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: on the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates. And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof. And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel. And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass. And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald; the fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst. And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass. And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it. And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.“
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21‬:‭1‬-‭27‬ ‭KJV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/1/rev.21.1-27.KJV

(22-03-2024, 02:00 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]We have it in the bible 

”And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; and had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: on the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates. And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof. And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel. And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass. And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald; the fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst. And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass. And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it. And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.“
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21‬:‭1‬-‭27‬ ‭KJV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/1/rev.21.1-27.KJV

Heaven and Hell in Islam are abodes where humans will enter after death >>resurrection >>Judgement day

(22-03-2024, 02:00 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]We have it in the bible 

”And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; and had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: on the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates. And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof. And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel. And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass. And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald; the fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst. And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass. And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it. And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.“
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21‬:‭1‬-‭27‬ ‭KJV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/1/rev.21.1-27.KJV

Do note that when the Bible mention heaven, it may not mean Paradise. What is above us is the heaven.

Fyi.

(22-03-2024, 12:11 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Why don you publish your findings in the straits Times so that all will receive the good news.

Please do me that favor and publish it for me.

Anyway, what do you think of what I've said?

(22-03-2024, 12:07 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]In the last days many will fall away from faith to seducing spirit n doctrine of the devil.
Many false prophets will rise claiming to be Christ

We don't get many false prophets. That's because our prophet said he is the last and after him, God will not send any new prophets. Which means, any who claim to be a prophet after our prophet is a false prophet.

(22-03-2024, 02:52 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Please do me that favor and publish it for me.

Anyway, what do you think of what I've said?

What I think what you said hold no weight...you pray and ask Allah what he thinks. Ask him to give you a sign or send you a messenger.

Maybe you can start another thread with a religious headline. This thread " It is wrong to be gay" is not so appropriate to discuss religions..Don you think? 

(22-03-2024, 03:01 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]What I think what you said hold no weight...you pray and ask Allah what he thinks. Ask him to give you a sign or send you a messenger.

Maybe you can start another thread with a religious headline. This thread " It is wrong to be gay" is not so appropriate to discuss religions..Don you think? 

I remember it was you who said I am putting doubt in you.

Is it that easy to put doubt in you? Why?

(22-03-2024, 03:03 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]I remember it was you who said I am putting doubt in you.

Is it that easy to put doubt in you? Why?

I didn't say i  am in doubts...I said you were planting the seeds of doubts in the mind of people and believers.

(22-03-2024, 03:05 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]I didn't say i  am in doubts...I said you were planting the seeds of doubts in the mind of people and believers.

It seems the truth puts doubt in your faith.

(22-03-2024, 03:09 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]It seems the truth puts doubt in your faith.

Lol...what is the truth? Have you witness the truth? Have you live in that era? If you have I will follow you...if not everything is just faith!

(22-03-2024, 03:09 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]It seems the truth puts doubt in your faith.

be like your friend hope, he/she doesn't force it down. It is ramadan, you should spend more time renewing and strengthening your faith in your god...

(22-03-2024, 03:10 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Lol...what is the truth? Have you witness the truth? Have you live in that era? If you have I will follow you...if not everything is just faith!

Knowledge man, knowledge, not just faith. Faith without knowledge is blind faith. That is what I am doing here, spreading the knowledge. 

One of the 99 names of Allah is "The Truth".

It is God who sends the Quran, and God has promised to guard it from tampering. 

(22-03-2024, 03:23 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]be like your friend hope, he/she doesn't force it down. It is ramadan, you should spend more time renewing and strengthening your faith in your god...

My faith increases as I talk about it with you and others here. 

I'm sure you know I can't force faith on you.

(22-03-2024, 03:27 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Knowledge man, knowledge, not just faith. Faith without knowledge is blind faith. That is what I am doing here, spreading the knowledge. 

One of the 99 names of Allah is "The Truth".

It is God who sends the Quran, and God has promised to guard it from tampering. 

Good to quote the Qur'an lah!  I want to know also lah!

(22-03-2024, 03:30 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]My faith increases as I talk about it with you and others here. 

I'm sure you know I can't force faith on you.

My faith increases as well and I have never once ask you to switch camp because I knew who I was dealing with   .....a fanatic ..discussing religion is a sensitive issue which may get one into problems with the authorities....I will back out from further discussion soon.

(22-03-2024, 03:56 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]My faith increases as well and I have never once ask you to switch camp because I knew who I was dealing with   .....a fanatic ..discussing religion is a sensitive issue which may get one into problems with the authorities....I will back out from further discussion soon.

We can remain friendly.

No one can force you to believe or disbelieve. 

But we all must think it through. Remember, the hereafter is eternal and your 70 years here will look like just a moment when compared to eternity. You don't want to be among the losers in the hereafter.

(22-03-2024, 03:27 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Knowledge man, knowledge, not just faith. Faith without knowledge is blind faith. That is what I am doing here, spreading the knowledge. 

One of the 99 names of Allah is "The Truth".

It is God who sends the Quran, and God has promised to guard it from tampering. 

OK pls go share your knowledge in the churches and temples...for yours is the truth for Allah is the real god...pls don give excuses saying you will disrupt services and gatherings...for I find this excuses cowardly 

(22-03-2024, 04:02 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]OK pls go share your knowledge in the churches and temples...for yours is the truth for Allah is the real god...pls don give excuses saying you will disrupt services and gatherings...for I find this excuses cowardly 

As I've told you. My religion forbids me to do that, to go into a temple to do dawah. End of story.

(22-03-2024, 04:00 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]We can remain friendly.

No one can force you to believe or disbelieve. 

But we all must think it through. Remember, the hereafter is eternal and your 70 years here will look like just a moment when compared to eternity. You don't want to me among the losers in the hereafter.

why are worrying about the hereafter when you still have a whole life ahead of you. I don think or talk abt what happen in the hereafter everyday...your god wants you to go out there to experience life as it is and to find out the truth for yourself.....not hide behind the keyboards and pick fights to charge your ego.

(22-03-2024, 04:04 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]As I've told you. My religion forbids me to do that, to go into a temple to do dawah. End of story.

Then who can hear your truth? Your God didn't give you a solution to this? The solution is here?? Keyboard warrior??

. Who can hear the truth if you remain here? You are doing a  disservice to your god by hiding behind that screen...don your god deserves a better platform to announce the good news to the world?

For 1. You can do a website and promote it
For 2. Speaker's corner
For 3. School

The Christian way of spreading the good news is going door to door..

(22-03-2024, 04:12 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Then who can hear your truth? Your God didn't give you a solution to this? The solution is here?? Keyboard warrior??

Ok. I'm a keyboard warrior. You caught me.

Are you interested in the truth?

(22-03-2024, 04:20 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]The Christian way of spreading the good news is going door to door..

Oh.. we do that too, going door to door.