(17-03-2024, 03:00 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]the lord prayer is between the father and the son prayer
it is address it as such
between the father and the son
forgivness of sin is the death of his son
you ask forgiveness from the son
They asked Jesus how to pray and Jesus taught them to say that prayer. It starts with "Our Father..." not "My Father..."
Aiyoh.. you so vulgar maybe that's why your eyes cannot see that simple part.
(17-03-2024, 03:03 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]They asked Jesus how to pray and Jesus taught them to say that prayer. It starts with "Our Father..." not "My Father..."
Aiyoh.. you so vulgar maybe that's why your eyes cannot see that simple part.
God created His son AND US TOO
WHY MY FATHER ONLY
OUR FATHER IS CORRECT
God created His son AND US TOO
U FARKING TWISTING DEMON
(17-03-2024, 03:05 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]God created His son AND US TOO
WHY MY FATHER ONLY
OUR FATHER IS CORRECT
God created His son AND US TOO
U FARKING TWISTING DEMON
If Jesus is created, that means he cannot be God.
God is the creator, not created.
Let's ask Lukongsimi.
Pengyu, do you agree with this vulgar guy that the Lord's prayer is a prayer only between Father and Son?
I'm sure you're not gonna take my side even if you think I am right.
(17-03-2024, 03:10 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]If Jesus is created, that means he cannot be God.
God is the creator, not created.
which part in the bible said that jesus created CANNOT BE GOD
you motherfarker spin doctor
WHICH PART?
ANSWER ME
YOU FARKING WHORE DEMON
DONT COME UP WITH YOUR OWN FACTs FINDING
(17-03-2024, 03:17 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]which part in the bible said that jesus created CANNOT BE GOD
you motherfarker spin doctor
WHICH PART?
ANSWER ME
YOU FARKING WHORE DEMON
DONT COME UP WITH YOUR OWN FACTs FINDING
Yes, I know. You already said you are vulgar because you learned it from Jesus.
I am sure there are Christians here who will wish you didn't say that coz it makes your religion look bad.
(17-03-2024, 03:28 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, I know. You already said you are vulgar because you learned it from Jesus.
I am sure there are Christians here who will wish you didn't say that coz it makes your religion look bad.
dealing with you demon
got to deal it with what is righteous
hell i care what other people think
even jesus deal with demon like u the same way
as i stand corrected
hell i care what other people think
i am not phased by any other thinking except God Himself and His Son and baptized by the Holy Ghost
AND DO REMEMBER THE LORD JESUS DIE FOR OUR SINS
(17-03-2024, 03:34 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]dealing with you demon
got to deal it with what is righteous
hell i care what other people think
even jesus deal with demon like u the same way
as i stand corrected
hell i care what other people think
i am not phased by any other thinking except God Himself and His Son and baptized by the Holy Ghost
By the fruits you shall know them.
Your fruit is vile and vulgar. Where did you get it from? You said Jesus.
I am sad that you blame Jesus for your shortcomings. Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honor in this world and the next, does not teach people to be vile and vulgar.
(17-03-2024, 03:39 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]By the fruits you shall know them.
Your fruit is vile and vulgar. Where did you get it from? You said Jesus.
I am sad that you blame Jesus for your shortcomings. Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honor in this world and the next, does not teach people to be vile and vulgar.
fact twisting again
why must i get it from jesus
where did i said i got it from jesus
or i learn it from jesus
you dont spin doctor lay you farking demon
(17-03-2024, 03:34 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]AND DO REMEMBER THE LORD JESUS DIE FOR OUR SINS
Why won't you be responsible for your own sins? Why must make an innocent man pay for your sins?
Be a man. Take responsibility for your wrongdoings.
(17-03-2024, 03:44 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]fact twisting again
why must i get it from jesus
where did i said i got it from jesus
or i learn it from jesus
you dont spin doctor lay you farking demon
You said that is how Jesus speaks to the demons.
(17-03-2024, 03:44 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Why won't you be responsible for your own sins? Why must make an innocent man pay for your sins?
Be a man. Take responsibility for your wrongdoings.
i stand corrected about the lord prayer
and with those bishop priest and pastor i work with
i will not back away from my bible teaching
i apologize to you sincerely on my approach
OVER and OUT
(17-03-2024, 03:48 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]i stand corrected about the lord prayer
and with those bishop priest and pastor i work with
i will not back away from my bible teaching
i apologize to you sincerely
OVER and OUT
I'm not sure what to make of this but if you're sincere, I will definitely take your olive branch gladly. I like making friends.
(17-03-2024, 03:52 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]who cares
i am with THE TRUTH
WHICH IS MOST IMPORTANT
Do you believe Jesus when he said the Father is the only true God?
John 17:3
(17-03-2024, 03:58 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Do you believe Jesus when he said the Father is the only true God?
John 17:3
we are NOT supposed to be like this in this form
there is a purpose WHY we are here
Jesus is telling us the truth why we are here
He and the father know why
(17-03-2024, 04:35 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]we are NOT supposed to be like this in this form
there is a purpose WHY we are here
Jesus is telling us the truth why we are here
He and the father know why
Maybe God wants to lead you to the truth and that is why I am here to speak to you.
If Jesus is God, would he say the Father is the ONLY true God?
When Jesus said the Father is the only true God, that would exclude him from being God.
John 17:3
(17-03-2024, 04:50 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe God wants to lead you to the truth and that is why I am here to speak to you.
If Jesus is God, would he say the Father is the ONLY true God?
When Jesus said the Father is the only true God, that would exclude him from being God.
John 17:3
what really God is and what really jesus is
and
what really God is to us and what really jesus is to us
why God need to send his son
why cant He just come here without creating his son
(17-03-2024, 05:09 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]what really God is and what really jesus is
and
what really God is to us and what really jesus is to us
why God need to send his son
why cant He just come here without creating his son
Yes, why?
Why would God need to commit a major injustice just so he can forgive his creations?
(17-03-2024, 05:18 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, why?
Why would God need to commit a major injustice just so he can forgive his creations?
in science
energy cannot be CREATED NOR DESTROYED
This sound like God
God is not created nor can it be destroyed
in science the energy we discovered is DEAD ENERGY OR LIFELESS ENERGY
God in the other hand is more than just energy
that why God send his son in physical form which can be distoryed
unlike God which cannot be destroy
so is God really jesus?
yes but in different matter
to be in physical form God is even closer to us
so is God really jesus?
at the same time the answer is no
cause they are not the same matter or form
what is the same is their knowledge their words
so the same or not the same is what you really know what is energy and what is matters
(17-03-2024, 05:29 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]in science
energy cannot be CREATED NOR DESTROYED
This sound like God
God is not created nor can it be destroyed
in science the energy we discovered is DEAD ENERGY OR LIFELESS ENERGY
God in the other hand is more than just energy
that why God send his son in physical form which can be distoryed
unlike God which cannot be destroy
so is God really jesus?
yes but in different matter
to be in physical form God is even closer to us
so is God really jesus?
at the same time the answer is no
cause they are not the same matter or form
what is the same is their knowledge their words
so the same or not the same is what you really know what is energy and what is matters
So Jesus is a lesser God that can be destroyed and the Father is the bigger God that cannot be destroyed?
(17-03-2024, 05:34 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]So Jesus is a lesser God that can be destroyed and the Father is the bigger God that cannot be destroyed?
i dont know about lesser
if jesus can raise fron his DEATH
LESSER?
YOU THINK ABOUT IT
God is all knowing. and yet he chose to create us to suffer the covid, earthquake and all natural disastor.
so either he is no all powerful or ???
someday in the future we will know where we come from,, maybe now our intelligence is not enough..
(17-03-2024, 05:36 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]i dont know about lesser
if jesus can raise fron his DEATH
LESSER?
YOU THINK ABOUT IT
Ok. Maybe poor choice of words but there must be some way I can understand your explanation that Jesus can be destroyed.
So, one God can be destroyed but the other one cannot be destroyed.
How many God are there?
(17-03-2024, 05:38 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Ok. Maybe poor choice of words but there must be some way I can understand your explanation that Jesus can be destroyed.
So, one God can be destroyed but the other one cannot be destroyed.
How many God are there?
that depend on what time you are talking about
(17-03-2024, 05:38 PM)victortan Wrote: [ -> ]God is all knowing. and yet he chose to create us to suffer the covid, earthquake and all natural disastor.
Why is the yet there?
Try removing that and take a step back to look at your sentence. You'll see nothing wrong with that.
(17-03-2024, 05:41 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]that depend on what time you are talking about
Is there a time when there is more than 1 God?
(17-03-2024, 05:43 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Is there a time when there is more than 1 God?
what is time to God
is there time in God world
we all experience time
does God deal everything He does in time
if there is no time in God world not in our world
so God can be any place any time any where
BUT ONE GOD
to us is many gods cause we have time
GET THE PICTURE
SUCKA