(17-03-2024, 12:49 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]The words of God are in the Holy Bible not in your Quran
I've never heard of any Christian scholars who said the Bible is the words of God.
(17-03-2024, 12:48 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Why do you want Jesus to suffer in pain and humiliation for your wrongdoing?
Why can't you be responsible for your own wrongdoings?
U dumb or what?
For God so loves the world He gave His only begotten son Jesus that whosoever believes in Him will have eternal life.
(17-03-2024, 12:52 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]I've never heard of any Christian scholars who said the Bible is the words of God.
I also never heard Quran is the word of God.
(17-03-2024, 12:42 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Then why did Jesus teach his followers to ask God for forgiveness directly?
which line iin jesus teaching teach his followers to ask God for forgiveness directly
HUH
U MOTHERFARKER
Argue with a dumb will become dumb
Better enjoy my Sunday relax n read the bible.
(17-03-2024, 12:48 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]can you name all the scholars who determined which books to be included in the New Testament and which books must be thrown out
in detail
if you can name them in detail
that prove you are right
i know you cant
why
it is more that just scholars who determined which books to be included in the New Testament and which books must be thrown out
so can you name all the scholars who determined which books to be included in the New Testament and which books must be thrown out in details
in detail
Yes, I do not know who were they who decided on the books. I also do not know if they all agree with each other because they are many different versions of the Bible with different sets of books.
It is all a great confusion.
(17-03-2024, 12:53 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]I also never heard Quran is the word of God.
All Muslims and I mean all of us including scholars and laymen, believe the Quran is 100% the verbatim words of God, with no doubt.
(17-03-2024, 12:55 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, I do not know who were they who decided on the books. I also do not know if they all agree with each other because they are many different versions of the Bible with different sets of books.
It is all a great confusion.
u farking demon
with confusion and things you dont know about exactly
you try to tell us "the scholars decide the book"
you are trying to tell the judge you knew and saw the murderer did it....... but you are confused who and how the murderer killed the victim and you never met the murdered before
FARK U LAH
FARK U
(17-03-2024, 12:52 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]U dumb or what?
For God so loves the world He gave His only begotten son Jesus that whosoever believes in Him will have eternal life.
That doesn't answer my question. Why do you want someone else to pay for your wrongdoings? Why can't you be responsible for your own wrongdoings?
To me, that is a great injustice, to make an innocent man pay for the wrongs of another. If I accidentally break your flower pots, would you punish your own son in order to forgive my mistake?
(17-03-2024, 12:59 PM)EvertonDiehard Wrote: [ -> ]
“Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces" - Matthew 7:6. This is my advice to you. Have a Blessed Sunday, brother.
Right
U too have a blessed Sunday bro.😊
(17-03-2024, 01:02 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]That doesn't answer my question. Why do you want someone else to pay for your wrongdoings? Why can't you be responsible for your own wrongdoings?
To me, that is a great injustice, to make an innocent man pay for the wrongs of another. If I accidentally break your flower pots, would you punish your own son in order to forgive my mistake?
if you punish your own son in order to forgive your mistake..............
YOU NEED TO GO TO IMH TO GET YOUR HEAD EXAMINE
U MOTHERFARKER IDIOT!
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(17-03-2024, 01:07 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]if you punish your own son in order to forgive your mistake..............
YOU NEED TO GO TO IMH TO GET YOUR HEAD EXAMINE
U MOTHERFARKER IDIOT!
Wrong lah.
When Lukongsimi wants to forgive me for my mistake, he must first punish his son who did nothing wrong, even when his son pleaded with him not to do that.
I find that to be a gross injustice and Jesus didn't teach that. It was St Paul's teaching.
(17-03-2024, 01:38 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]God is not to be mocked
Me is not God u dumb!
I'm not mocking God.
I'm giving you an analogy of what you believe.
You believe God must punish his son in order to forgive other people's mistakes. Can you say I'm wrong for saying that? No, you can't coz it is what you believe. I'm just showing your own faith to you from another angle.
(17-03-2024, 01:40 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not mocking God.
I'm giving you an analogy of what you believe.
You believe God must punish his son in order to forgive other people's mistakes.
When people getting old is like that menopause ,change of behaviour
Nags non stop
Same rubbish everyday expecting all to listen to u.
(17-03-2024, 01:49 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]When people getting old is like that menopause ,change of behaviour
Nags non stop
Same rubbish everyday expecting all to listen to u.
What I've shown to you is your faith which cannot stand up to scrutiny. You just believe without question and when the questions come to you from me, you cannot answer them.
(17-03-2024, 01:54 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]What I've shown to you is your faith which cannot stand up to scrutiny. You just believe without question and when the questions come to you from me, you cannot answer them.
Whatever answer I gave u
U will never accept it
U are living in your own self make world
Thinking that u are smarter than God himself
Repent now or too late
(17-03-2024, 01:58 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Whatever answer I gave u
U will never accept it
U are living in your own self make world
Thinking that u are smarter than God himself
Repent now or too late
The answers you have been giving me will bring up more questions. I'll give you an example.
Jesus spent 3 years teaching. Then you said "All is finished" in refutation of my point about asking forgiveness directly from God. Does that mean Jesus teaching on seeking forgiveness directly from God is no longer applicable?
(17-03-2024, 02:14 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz😴😴😴😴😴😴😴
Wake up pengyu.
How can Jesus's teachings be no longer applicable?
(17-03-2024, 02:12 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Does that mean Jesus teaching on seeking forgiveness directly from God is no longer applicable?
which part which line said jesus teaching on seeking forgiveness directly from God
which part ?
you MISREAD MISINTERPRETED the,Lords prayer
u cheeby demon
(17-03-2024, 02:20 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]which part which line said jesus teaching on seeking forgiveness directly from God
which part ?
you MISREAD MISINTERPRETED the,Lords prayer
u cheeby demon
It is in the Lord's prayer.
Recite the Lord's prayer and you will see it. But wash you mouth first coz it's very dirty and unfitting for reciting the Lord's prayer.
(17-03-2024, 02:25 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]It is in the Lord's prayer.
Recite the Lord's prayer and you will see it. But wash you mouth first coz it's very dirty and unfitting for reciting the Lord's prayer.
let me tell you this
my bishop and priest tell me this
listen catefully
"And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us"
in this one sentence it mean
AS WE RECEIVE THE FORGIVENESS, WE MUST ALSO FORGIVE THOSE WHO SIN AGAINT US
it is not jesus teaching to ask or get forgiveness directly from God
you farking demon
u motherfarker farking demon
u misinterpretor farking demon
(17-03-2024, 02:37 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]let me tell you this
my bishop and priest tell me this
listen catefully
"And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us"
in this one sentence it mean
AS WE RECEIVE THE FORGIVENESS, WE MUST ALSO FORGIVE THOSE WHO SIN AGAINT US
it is not jesus teaching to ask or get forgiveness directly from God
you farking demon
It is a prayer Jesus taught his people and the prayer is directed at only the Father. In the prayer, the believer is taught to ask for 3 things directly from the Father.
1. Daily bread
2. Forgiveness
3. Lead not into temptation
Did you wash your mouth first before reciting it?
Why must this Christian be vile and vulgar? He said it is a teaching from his religion. He said Jesus never talk nicely to demons. So that is why he is very vulgar and rude to me.
His religion taught him that.
(17-03-2024, 02:46 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]It is a prayer Jesus taught his people and the prayer is directed at only the Father. In the prayer, the believer is taught to ask for 3 things directly from the Father.
1. Daily bread
2. Forgiveness
3. Lead not into temptation
Did you wash your mouth first before reciting it?
listen catefully
"And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us"
in this one sentence it mean
AS WE RECEIVE THE FORGIVENESS, WE MUST ALSO FORGIVE THOSE WHO SIN AGAINT US
it is not jesus teaching to ask or get forgiveness directly from God
you farking demon
(17-03-2024, 02:51 PM)grotesqueness Wrote: [ -> ]listen catefully
"And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us"
in this one sentence it mean
AS WE RECEIVE THE FORGIVENESS, WE MUST ALSO FORGIVE THOSE WHO SIN AGAINT US
it is not jesus teaching to ask or get forgiveness directly from God
you farking demon
Before you receive the forgiveness, you must ask for it first right? Yes right. So, the Lords Prayer is teaching you to first ask for forgiveness directly from God.
(17-03-2024, 02:55 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Before you receive the forgiveness, you must ask for it first right? Yes right. So, the Lords Prayer is teaching you to first ask for forgiveness directly from God.
the lord prayer is between the father and the son prayer
it is address it as such
between the father and the son
forgivness of sin is the death of his son
you ask forgiveness from the son
you said directly from God
No it is not directly from God
the lord prayer NEVER TEACH US MUST BE DIRECTLY FROM GOD