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(22-03-2025, 10:04 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Yes...where is the name? I will convert to a moslem if they can show me the name Ahmed
If sent by God
Gabriel will inform his mother bef born just like John the Baptist and Jesus right?
(23-03-2025, 11:16 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]If sent by God
Gabriel will inform his mother bef born just like John the Baptist and Jesus right?

Yes lah...everything will be very clear...
Even the past prophets will point to Muhammad as the last prophet if it is the truth...but we all know the Quran contradicts with previous scriptures...
(23-03-2025, 11:08 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]His is 2 in 1 lost lah

Allah and Muhammad...God and his creation in a same prayer is a joke lah...
(23-03-2025, 11:33 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Yes lah...everything will be very clear...
Even the past prophets will point to Muhammad as the last prophet if it is the truth...but we all know the Quran contradicts with previous scriptures...

Judges 13/2 
Samson ‘s mother was informed by the angel of the Lord bef he was born too
God called out to Moses and Samuel too
Moses Moses !
Samuel Samuel !
Jesus also called out to Saul 
Saul Saul why are you persecuting me
Paul also was chosen to preach the gospel to the gentiles
(23-03-2025, 11:47 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]https://youtube.com/shorts/660zGC14URE?s...WSM6hjI0xR

Same like Ishmael ‘s mother wanted her son take over Isaac as heir.
(22-03-2025, 05:41 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]OK..you don have to say anything . Big Grin just say why Allah is not your God and why you do not go with Islam.. Laughing

(23-03-2025, 11:09 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Relax breathe in and out

Shutup Do_not_tell_anyone Nothingtosay Masked
(23-03-2025, 02:41 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]Shutup Do_not_tell_anyone Nothingtosay Masked

If We all keep quiet the 2 moslems will
Be bored to death 😂
(23-03-2025, 01:45 AM)S I M T A N Wrote: [ -> ]Why are some people's hearts open and others' hearts are not open or receptive? Someone once said, "The same sun that melts wax will harden clay." In other words, the same gospel that will open some people's hearts will shut the hearts of others because they refuse to accept the truth they're hearing. It's not God's fault that some people persist in keeping their minds and hearts closed to the truth they hear any more than it is the sun's fault for melting wax or hardening clay. Smile

"For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths." (2 Timothy 4:3-4) Big Grin
(23-03-2025, 04:20 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]If We all keep quiet the 2 moslems will
Be bored to death 😂

God will speak to them lah! Big Grin
(23-03-2025, 05:02 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]God will speak to them lah! Big Grin

You mean now God is not speaking to them lah Big Grin
(23-03-2025, 05:22 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]You mean now God is not speaking to them lah Big Grin

God is always speaking lah! Big Grin They may not want to hear lah! Turn a deaf ear lah!
(23-03-2025, 05:38 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]God is always speaking lah! Big Grin They may not want to hear lah! Turn a deaf ear lah!

How to know?
We always look at an eye witness testimony

Ex-Terrorist Confirms Mass Visions of Jesus in Gaza, Says Thousands of Muslims Will Come to Christ

https://cbn.com/news/world/ex-terrorist-...ome-christ
(23-03-2025, 05:42 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]How to know?

When you open the Bible God is speaking to you lah! Big Grin The Bible is the Word of God lah!
(23-03-2025, 05:02 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]God will speak to them lah! Big Grin

““For the kingdom of heaven is like a man traveling to a far country, who called his own servants and delivered his goods to them. And to one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one, to each according to his own ability; and immediately he went on a journey. Then he who had received the five talents went and traded with them, and made another five talents. And likewise he who had received two gained two more also. But he who had received one went and dug in the ground, and hid his Lord’s money. After a long time the Lord of those servants came and settled accounts with them. “So he who had received five talents came and brought five other talents, saying, ‘Lord, you delivered to me five talents; look, I have gained five more talents besides them.’ His Lord said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant; you were faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your Lord.’ He also who had received two talents came and said, ‘Lord, you delivered to me two talents; look, I have gained two more talents besides them.’ His Lord said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant; you have been faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things. Enter into the joy of your Lord.’ “Then he who had received the one talent came and said, ‘Lord, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you have not sown, and gathering where you have not scattered seed. And I was afraid, and went and hid your talent in the ground. Look, there you have what is yours.’ “But his Lord answered and said to him, ‘You wicked and lazy servant, you knew that I reap where I have not sown, and gather where I have not scattered seed. So you ought to have deposited my money with the bankers, and at my coming I would have received back my own with interest. Therefore take the talent from him, and give it to him who has ten talents.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭25‬:‭14‬-‭28‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ Big Grin
(23-03-2025, 05:52 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]When you open the Bible God is speaking to you lah! Big Grin The Bible is the Word of God lah!

How do we know if what we are reading is not a forgery or the work of lying scribe?
In Islam, belief in previous scriptures, including the Bible, is an essential part of faith...if the scriptures are forged or corrupted then pls put the blame on your own God for lying to you...why would God ask its followers to believe in corrupted scriptures  Big Grin
Read, ˹O Prophet,˺ in the Name of your Lord Who created—

created humans from a clinging clot.

Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous,

Who taught by the pen—

taught humanity what they knew not

Quran 96:1-5
(23-03-2025, 06:19 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Read, ˹O Prophet,˺ in the Name of your Lord Who created—

created humans from a clinging clot.

Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous,

Who taught by the pen—

taught humanity what they knew not

Quran 96:1-5

Finally Hope replies, a breath of fresh air...this is where the Quran contradicts itself...

You wrote created humans from a clinging clot.

Q (23:12) We created man out of the extract of clay,

So which one is correct?

“And indeed, We created humankind from an extract of clay,


then placed each ˹human˺ as a sperm-drop in a secure place

then We developed the drop into a clinging clot, then developed the clot into a lump ˹of flesh˺, then developed the lump into bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, then We brought it into being as a new creation.So Blessed is Allah, the Best of Creators

After that you will surely die,

then on the Day of Judgment you will be resurrected.

And indeed, We created above you seven levels ˹of heaven˺. We are never unmindful of ˹Our˺ creation.”
Quran 23:12-17
(23-03-2025, 07:10 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]
“And indeed, We created humankind from an extract of clay,


then placed each ˹human˺ as a sperm-drop in a secure place

then We developed the drop into a clinging clot, then developed the clot into a lump ˹of flesh˺, then developed the lump into bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, then We brought it into being as a new creation.So Blessed is Allah, the Best of Creators

After that you will surely die,

then on the Day of Judgment you will be resurrected.

And indeed, We created above you seven levels ˹of heaven˺. We are never unmindful of ˹Our˺ creation.”
Quran 23:12-17

The angels were created from light, the Jinn were created from a smokeless flame of fire.

What else did Allah create? Jesus also creates a real bird from clay...so how many creators are there in the Quran Big Grin
(23-03-2025, 06:19 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Read, ˹O Prophet,˺ in the Name of your Lord Who created—

created humans from a clinging clot.

Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous,

Who taught by the pen—

taught humanity what they knew not

Quran 96:1-5

(23-03-2025, 06:24 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Finally Hope replies, a breath of fresh air...this is where the Quran contradicts itself...

You wrote created humans from a clinging clot.

Q (23:12) We created man out of the extract of clay,

So which one is correct?

These verses are reminding the humanity ,It was Allah who taught us to write and read .If not, we are the same as other creatures.

Adam was created from clay .

His descendants are from clinging clot( mixture of both men and women fluid)
(23-03-2025, 07:10 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]
“And indeed, We created humankind from an extract of clay,


then placed each ˹human˺ as a sperm-drop in a secure place

then We developed the drop into a clinging clot, then developed the clot into a lump ˹of flesh˺, then developed the lump into bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, then We brought it into being as a new creation.So Blessed is Allah, the Best of Creators

After that you will surely die,

then on the Day of Judgment you will be resurrected.

And indeed, We created above you seven levels ˹of heaven˺. We are never unmindful of ˹Our˺ creation.”
Quran 23:12-17

(23-03-2025, 07:22 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]The angels were created from light, the Jinn were created from a smokeless flame of fire.

What else did Allah create? Jesus also creates a real bird from clay...so how many creators are there in the Quran Big Grin

Jesus didn’t create anything his own.

He didn’t create even the religion called Christianity.

He didn’t ascend to heaven his own.

He can’t decend to earth his own.

All other creatures and plants were created from water

Let’s see how much your supreme authority bible talk about the creation of all the creatures
(23-03-2025, 08:07 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]These verses are reminding the humanity ,It was Allah who taught us to write and read .If not, we are the same as other creatures.

Adam was created from clay .

His descendants are from clinging clot( mixture of both men and women fluid)

Allah taught to read and write? So do you know how to read and write arabic?
(23-03-2025, 08:14 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Jesus didn’t create anything his own.

He didn’t create even the religion called Christianity.

He didn’t ascend to heaven his own.

He can’t decend to earth his own.

All other creatures and plants were created from water

Let’s see how much your supreme authority bible talk about the creation of all the creatures

If Jesus didnt create the bird, then who created the bird? Jesus has the ability to create...is that correct?