(07-02-2025, 11:49 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Did Muhammad see Gabriel?
He didn't see the doctor but we all know he is so scare that he ran back home and hide under the blanket for 7 days...
Can any moslems confirm that the one in the cave was Gabriel? 
Yes, He saw and Quran mentioned it.
(07-02-2025, 12:37 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Muhammad made all his followers pay him the respect even after his death....the Quran if revealed by God is only to mankind.,,no man should steal the limelight the only praise and recognition should be towards God alone...no need to pay jizya to your prophet because he is just a tool....you know what is a tool?
When you go supermarket and after purchase..you thanks the cashier only...are you going to thanks her tool which is the cash register as well?
It is the Quran ordered followers to send salute and praise to prophet Muhammad.
(07-02-2025, 12:39 PM)Ipinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]I don wish to know what is their testimony....these are experts in their own field of work..I would rather trust them over you anytime bro
From death bed, They knew the truth.
(07-02-2025, 12:45 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Who says our scriptures are not original or corrupted...Allah ask you moslems to believe in the previous scriptures in your article of faith....Will he ask you to believe in corrupted scriptures?
Allah asked us to BELIVE in earlier scriptures. He didn’t ask us to follow those .
Allah did not give Old Testament,New testament and Bible
(07-02-2025, 02:18 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]There is no way you can pray directly to Allah without involving Muhammad....
That's why Allah doesn't answer your call..
Can you pray to Yahweh without Jesus?
(07-02-2025, 03:10 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]They go to a confinement and wait for judgment day...
Where are those dead Christian?
In delusional heaven or not yet?
(07-02-2025, 03:17 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]98:6 Lo! those who disbelieve, among the People of the Scripture and the idolaters, will abide in fire of hell. They are the worst of creatures (sharru-l-bariyati - شَرُّ الْبَرِيَّةِ).
You looking at NIV or king James version?
Bro, creatures or beings...it is the same.
Language of Quran is Arabic.Here is another translation
Indeed, those who disbelieve from the People of the Book and the polytheists will be in the Fire of Hell, to stay there forever. They are the worst of ˹all˺ beings.
(07-02-2025, 03:22 PM)Opinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]How do you feel when your Quran disrespected us and call us the worst of creatures/beings...
Allah is wiser . He knows what term to use .
(07-02-2025, 03:24 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]If they don believe in the living God..,,then they will be goreng pisang!
That living god is fictional
(07-02-2025, 03:58 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]"For God so loved the whole that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 NIV. God gave me the life of Jesus Christ lah! Do you believe in Him leh? 
If God love the world, God should make everyone wealthy.
(07-02-2025, 10:42 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, He saw and Quran mentioned it.
Gabriel did not identify himself to Muhammad in the cave so you cannot be sure that it was angel Gabriel...Satan can disguised as Gabriel.
(07-02-2025, 10:21 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Are you wiser than Allah?
Allah asked the members of nation of Muhammad to salute/ Praise prophet Muhammad like did to the nation of other prophets.
Like your fictional writers who taught only way to father is through Jesus, Allah or Prophet Muhammad didn’t say only way to Allah is Muhammad.Allah asked us to send our salute and praise to Prophet Muhammad.Allah did not make Muhammad a God or son like your fictional writers who made Jesus a God and Son of God.
Quran / prophet Muhammad/ Muslim never omitted Allah like you did to Yahwah. Why is Yahweh not important in your religion?
Why are you Questioning why is Prophet Muhammad is higher than Allah , while not Questioning your self why is Jesus higher than Yahweh?
You are questioning morality of Prophet Muhammad, why don’t you Question your authors how can they make a man who was accused by his society as illegitimate child?
Where in the Quran did Allah speak to Muhammad and ask him to salute himself?
(07-02-2025, 04:13 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]So which English Translation is the Word of God? You moslems get confused over your own translations
Arabic Quran is the word of God.
Muslim from English speaking countries like USA, UK, Australia, New Zealand never complained about translation.
Bible has lost the original language.Quran still has the Arabic Quran.
“Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Quran so that you may understand.”Quran 12:2
“And so We have revealed to you a Quran in Arabic, so you may warn the Mother of Cities and everyone around it, and warn of the Day of Gathering—about which there is no doubt—˹when˺ a group will be in Paradise and another in the Blaze.”Quran 42:7
(07-02-2025, 10:27 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Muslim belive Torah given to Moses, Psalm given to David,Injeel Given to Jesus.
We don’t believe Old Testament , New Testament and Bible.
Did the Quran say that the injeel and Gospels are not the NT and the Bible....what the Christians have at time is the Bible which consists of the OT and NT...if there are new revelations that were lost..it will be transmitted orally down
(07-02-2025, 10:31 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Are you wiser than Allah?
Are you the creator, controller and guardian of this universe?
So Allah will do what he wants.
The truth in the Quran is that Allah does not speak to Muhammad ....only Muhammad speaks to God..
I speak to God daily..so am I a prophet?
(07-02-2025, 04:44 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]If a man not a moslem yet attends islamic classes for 3 months, believes in Allah and he dies before saying his shahada..where is he going?
Allah knows the man’s intention and sincerity.
Allah will grant him accordingly
(07-02-2025, 10:41 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Are you wiser than Allah?
We follow Allah.
You can only follow Allah after acknowledging Muhammad...
Only after receiving permission from Muhammad..you get it!
(07-02-2025, 10:47 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]It is the Quran ordered followers to send salute and praise to prophet Muhammad.
Muhammad is a tool just like all the prophets....the butcher's knife is also a tool..do you also praise the butcher's knife after your purchase?
(07-02-2025, 11:25 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Allah knows the man’s intention and sincerity.
Allah will grant him accordingly
Thank you..so it is by faith and not by works...why are moslems following Paul's teachings?
(07-02-2025, 11:22 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]When?
When it is the right time...God will reveal to you
(07-02-2025, 10:40 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Where did Islam say?
God is clear in Scripture that He welcomes into heaven each baby who dies, born or unborn (Ps 139).
For Islam..prophet Ibrahim will take care of the babies...
(05-02-2025, 10:35 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Why?
Vatican City
However, Vatican City, the birthplace of Christianity, does not have a single Muslim living there.
Birth place of Christianity?😂🙄😄
What is the population in Vatican? Around 750 people . In Vatican No mosque, Buddhist temple, Hindu temple, synagogue, Protestant church, Orthodox Church.Only Catholic Churches are there.Muslim and others can visit there . No restrictions.
Their neighbour Italy (Once mighty Rome)has the fifth largest Muslim population in Europe.
(07-02-2025, 07:14 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]There is only 1 HELL and 1 HEAVEN lah! Which 1 you want to go leh?
Jesus repeatedly warned that there isn't one destination for all but two distinct roads in this life that lead to two different destinations in the afterlife. In His most extensive discourse about the hereafter, He related the story of a rich man and a poor man - Lazarus - who both died. They shared the same experience of death, but not the same destiny. See Luke 16:22-24.
In this story Jesus affirms that people face two possible eternal destinies when they die, and one of those possibilities is eternal damnation. Hell is an forever destination (Matt 25:46), a place of physical suffering (Matt 22:13; Luke 16:24), and, most devastatingly, an irrevocable destination (Luke 16:26). Once a man pops his clogs and finds himself in this place of eternal punishment, all opportunity for faith and repentance is over.
In Jesus's story, the rich man begged Abraham for relief from his suffering and, if that wasn't possible, for someone to leave heaven and warn his siblings on earth of the terrible destiny that awaited them. I can imagine this rich man, who had experienced the devastating reality of hell, would be the greatest evangelist of all time! However, Abraham explained why it was impossible to grant his request:
"And besides all this, between us and you there is a great chasm fixed, so that those who wish to come over from here to you may not be able, and that none may cross over from there to us." (Luke 16:26)
It's hard to imagine being happy without our loved ones. God does not desire that any go to hell (Ezekiel 33:11). The Bible says that God is "not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance" (2 Peter 3:9). Throughout the Bible, from the Old Testament right to the last page of the New Testament, you'll find again and again where the Word of God puts the responsibility for receiving the blessings of God upon each individual person. For example, God said, ".. CHOOSE YOU this day whom ye will serve.." (Joshua 24:15). He leaves the choice up to us. Then in the Book of Revelation the Word of God says, "..Come. And let him that heareth say, Come.. whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely" (Rev 22:17). "Whosoever" means each individual person must make the choice for himself to enter through God's doors of blessings.
SimTan is here tonight...all bros here are dying to hear what you have to say...come come!
(07-02-2025, 11:39 PM)S I M T A N Wrote: [ -> ]Jesus repeatedly warned that there isn't one destination for all but two distinct roads in this life that lead to two different destinations in the afterlife. In His most extensive discourse about the hereafter, He related the story of a rich man and a poor man - Lazarus - who both died. They shared the same experience of death, but not the same destiny. See Luke 16:22-24.
In this story Jesus affirms that people face two possible eternal destinies when they die, and one of those possibilities is eternal damnation. Hell is an forever destination (Matt 25:46), a place of physical suffering (Matt 22:13; Luke 16:24), and, most devastatingly, an irrevocable destination (Luke 16:26). Once a man pops his clogs and finds himself in this place of eternal punishment, all opportunity for faith and repentance is over.
In Jesus's story, the rich man begged Abraham for relief from his suffering and, if that wasn't possible, for someone to leave heaven and warn his siblings on earth of the terrible destiny that awaited them. I can imagine this rich man, who had experienced the devastating reality of hell, would be the greatest evangelist of all time! However, Abraham explained why it was impossible to grant his request:
"And besides all this, between us and you there is a great chasm fixed, so that those who wish to come over from here to you may not be able, and that none may cross over from there to us." (Luke 16:26)
It's hard to imagine being happy without our loved ones. God does not desire that any go to hell (Ezekiel 33:11). The Bible says that God is "not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance" (2 Peter 3:9). Throughout the Bible, from the Old Testament right to the last page of the New Testament, you'll find again and again where the Word of God puts the responsibility for receiving the blessings of God upon each individual person. For example, God said, ".. CHOOSE YOU this day whom ye will serve.." (Joshua 24:15). He leaves the choice up to us. Then in the Book of Revelation the Word of God says, "..Come. And let him that heareth say, Come.. whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely" (Rev 22:17). "Whosoever" means each individual person must make the choice for himself to enter through God's doors of blessings.
Well said lah, bro!
Revelation 20 describes in details the lake of fire and sulphur into which Satan and all his demonic angels will be cast when Jesus comes back again lah! If my name is not written in the book of life, there I will end up too lah!
Though I don like Sam Shamoun....but he explains it best lah
Angry Muslims Realize They PRAY TO Muhammad 5x A Day [Debate] | Sam Shamoun