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(31-03-2025, 05:04 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Yes u r right 
U understand well 
😊

When Alizabird tries to be disrespectful and calls you busoh hati...this is God telling him don mess around  Big Grin
(31-03-2025, 05:19 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]When Alizabird tries to be disrespectful and calls you busoh hati...this is God telling him don mess around  Big Grin
I didn’t steal their old wife or money 
Only speak the truth they cannot take it 
Just like what the Pharisees did to Jesus
Pathetic loh
(23-03-2025, 11:06 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Last nite dreamt the earth tremors
Buildings shaken

Prepare prepare !

The timing is right, the contents are right...
I want to ask the Moslems what else do you need to deny Him..

God is using LKSM to speak to you my moslem friends ...wake up
(31-03-2025, 05:27 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]The timing is right, the contents are right...
I want to ask the Moslems what else do you need to deny Him..

Wait till the graves open n raptures 
Occur , will be too late to turn back
(23-03-2025, 11:06 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Last nite dreamt the earth tremors
Buildings shaken

Prepare prepare !

Let me quote the moslem earlier message to Lksm

But the thing is, I KNOW I have failed to obey God's commandment because I know clearly what God has commanded ergo I know where I have failed. What about you? You think you are favored by God based on all your silly testimonies about yourself that you keep trumpeting here in this forum. You remind me so much of that Pharisee in Luke 18.

Now do you find his testimony silly anymore Big Grin
(31-03-2025, 06:29 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Let me quote the moslem earlier message to Lksm

But the thing is, I KNOW I have failed to obey God's commandment because I know clearly what God has commanded ergo I know where I have failed. What about you? You think you are favored by God based on all your silly testimonies about yourself that you keep trumpeting here in this forum. You remind me so much of that Pharisee in Luke 18.

Now do you find his testimony silly anymore Big Grin
One said silly testimonies 
The other said I show off 
Then who showed me the dreams?
Only pinky believes  me ..
Never mind lah praise the Lord He showed me so many things beyond human reach.
Another earthquake at Aceh yesterday 

https://youtu.be/N0TzirYcfNE?si=z99Irh7VmtLwkGSl
“But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judæa, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭1‬:‭8
(31-03-2025, 06:37 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]One said silly testimonies 
The other said I show off 
Then who showed me the dreams?
Only pinky believes  me ..
Never mind lah praise the Lord He showed me so many things beyond human reach.

Disbelievers will run away and keep quiet...but that one question will always dwell in their heart..." How did Lksm get it right?"

Let them use logic to answer...I am waiting  Big Grin
In Acts 2:17-18, the Apostle Peter quotes the prophet Joel, saying that in the last days, God will pour out His Spirit, and people will prophesy, see visions, and dream dreams. This passage indicates that spiritual experiences, including visions and dreams, can be significant in the life of believers.
The Apostle Paul was a Pharisee who studied under Rabban Gamaliel II, one of the greatest Jewish rabbis of the first century. Paul knew the Old Testament inside and out which is why he quotes the Old Testament so frequently in his writings. 

This is important because Jesus claimed to fulfill a variety of Old Testament prophecies and you can't really examine this claim if you don't know what the Old Testament says. 

Muhammad was almost completely ignorant of the Old Testament because his knowledge of the Jewish scriptures was limited to what he heard in conversations. Not surprisingly despite Muhammad's numerous interactions with Jews in Arabia the Quran contains very few quotations from the Old Testament.

 Due to his ignorance of the scriptures Muhammad couldn't tell the difference between stories that were in the Torah and therefore divine revelation and stories from later Jewish writings and commentaries some of which were so late and so obviously fabricated they weren't far beyond the level of bedtime stories. 

Imagine how amusing it must be for someone who specializes in Jewish literature, to read the Quran and find so many fables being presented to Muslims as Revelation. Cain being taught how to bury the dead by a raven (al-Ma`idah (The Table, The Table Spread) 5:31), Solomon listening to a speech by an ant (Surah An-Naml - 15-25). 

But Muhammad just didn't know enough to distinguish scripture from non-scripture. Muhammad's ignorance of the Old Testament is also noteworthy because, like Jesus, he claimed to fulfill Old Testament prophecies. If Muhammad had been more knowledgeable of the Torah, he would have known that he couldn't possibly be a prophet for numerous reasons.
(31-03-2025, 12:04 AM)S I M T A N Wrote: [ -> ]What is at issue is the law, and I believe you're referring to laws relating to the sacred pillars, the Sabbath, circumcision, and other observances. I explained at some length the whys and wherefores of the Old Covenant and the New Covenant, but you just pulled an ambiguous verse in rebuttal. What a snappily written reply! Now would you mind sharing your thoughts on why you think the laws are still relevant today.

According to the Gospels, Jesus said the law stays, and those who disobey and teach others to disobey will be condemned. Jesus said he didn't abolish the law and the prophets. The teaching of the prophet Ezekiel says obedience to the law is a MUST for salvation. Jesus's teachings also say the same. It is not a coincidence that the last prophet, Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم, also teaches the same, obedience to the law, albeit the Shariah.

Only Paul taught differently, calling the Law from God a curse which is an outright blasphemy because the Law is a blessing and mercy from God, for our own good. That is clearly written in your Bible which you have missed. Take note my friend, that you have been led astray by Paul. At this point, I will again remind you of the warning Jesus gave about the one who teaches people to discard the Law.

The many verses containing the command for us to be obedient to God's law ARE NOT AMBIGUOUS. See below and note the word "forever" in Deut 5:29 which is inline with Jesus's words on the permanence of the Law.

• "You shall therefore keep His statutes and His commandments which I command you today, that it may go well with you and with your children after you, and that you may prolong your days" - Deut 4:40

• Immediately after giving the Ten Commandments, God exclaimed: "Oh, that they had such a heart in them that they would fear Me and always keep all My commandments, that it might be well with them and with their children forever!" - Deut 5:29

• "You shall walk in all the ways which the Lord your God has commanded you, that you may live and that it may be well with you, and that you may prolong your days in the land which you shall possess" - Deut 5:33

• "You shall diligently keep the commandments of the Lord your God, His testimonies, and His statutes which He has commanded you. And you shall do what is right and good in the sight of the LORD, that it may be well with you" - Deut 6:17

• "Then it shall come to pass, because you listen to these judgments, and keep and do them, that the Lord your God will keep with you the covenant and the mercy which He swore to your fathers. And He will love you and bless you and multiply you . . . You shall be blessed above all peoples" - Deut 7:12

• "And now, Israel, what does the LORD your God require of you, but to fear the Lord your God, to walk in all His ways and to love Him, to serve the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, and to keep the commandments of the Lord and His statutes which I command you today for your good?" - Deut 10:12

• "Blessed are those whose ways are blameless, who walk according to the law of the Lord. Blessed are those who keep his statutes and seek him with all their heart; they do no wrong but follow his ways. You have laid down precepts that are to be fully obeyed." -Psalm 119  
(31-03-2025, 09:00 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Disbelievers will run away and keep quiet...but that one question will always dwell in their heart..." How did Lksm get it right?"

Let them use logic to answer...I am waiting  Big Grin
They still scratching their head what to answer 
Lol
If Allah discusses the Trinity in the Quran, why didn't He inform Muhammad that Paul was spreading falsehoods and that he was not preaching what Jesus taught? 

Is Allah not all-knowing? It seems that you Muslims often refer to the Bible to critique Paul. Why is that? Allah did not instruct you to find faults with Paul.. instead, you should consider the contradictions present within your own prophet's teachings in relation to previous scriptures....
(31-03-2025, 09:46 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]They still scratching their head what to answer 
Lol

Even if That buffoon scratches his balls...he still cannot answer why your words came true
New earthquake striked on Sunday March 30th
The first was on 28/3/25

https://youtu.be/s1zP8jd_9q4?si=W5aPt5sp3k7EvXy6
(31-03-2025, 09:21 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]According to the Gospels, Jesus said the law stays, and those who disobey and teach others to disobey will be condemned. Jesus said he didn't abolish the law and the prophets. The teaching of the prophet Ezekiel says obedience to the law is a MUST for salvation. Jesus's teachings also say the same. It is not a coincidence that the last prophet, Muhammad صلي الله عليه وسلم, also teaches the same, obedience to the law, albeit the Shariah.

Only Paul taught differently, calling the Law from God a curse which is an outright blasphemy because the Law is a blessing and mercy from God, for our own good. That is clearly written in your Bible which you have missed. Take note my friend, that you have been led astray by Paul. At this point, I will again remind you of the warning Jesus gave about the one who teaches people to discard the Law.

The many verses containing the command for us to be obedient to God's law ARE NOT AMBIGUOUS. See below and note the word "forever" in Deut 5:29 which is inline with Jesus's words on the permanence of the Law.

• "You shall therefore keep His statutes and His commandments which I command you today, that it may go well with you and with your children after you, and that you may prolong your days" - Deut 4:40

• Immediately after giving the Ten Commandments, God exclaimed: "Oh, that they had such a heart in them that they would fear Me and always keep all My commandments, that it might be well with them and with their children forever!" - Deut 5:29

• "You shall walk in all the ways which the Lord your God has commanded you, that you may live and that it may be well with you, and that you may prolong your days in the land which you shall possess" - Deut 5:33

• "You shall diligently keep the commandments of the Lord your God, His testimonies, and His statutes which He has commanded you. And you shall do what is right and good in the sight of the LORD, that it may be well with you" - Deut 6:17

• "Then it shall come to pass, because you listen to these judgments, and keep and do them, that the Lord your God will keep with you the covenant and the mercy which He swore to your fathers. And He will love you and bless you and multiply you . . . You shall be blessed above all peoples" - Deut 7:12

• "And now, Israel, what does the LORD your God require of you, but to fear the Lord your God, to walk in all His ways and to love Him, to serve the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, and to keep the commandments of the Lord and His statutes which I command you today for your good?" - Deut 10:12

• "Blessed are those whose ways are blameless, who walk according to the law of the Lord. Blessed are those who keep his statutes and seek him with all their heart; they do no wrong but follow his ways. You have laid down precepts that are to be fully obeyed." -Psalm 119  



I appreciate your expansion on your earlier comment regarding the Law, which is a departure from your ritual of just "demonizing" the apostle Paul and saying the law must be obeyed on the say-so of Jesus. Here's the scoop on the Law from the Biblical perspective.

Though sin abounded after the Fall, God gave no law until Moses. Rom 5:13-14 tells us there was no law given from the time of Adam until the time of Moses. The Mosaic Covenant, made with Israel and not with the church, is a conditional covenant and not an unconditional covenant. Plse read Exodus 24. Because it's conditional, it can be broken and annulled. Unconditional covenants, on the other hand, are not broken. God makes them and fulfilled by God without condition. Again, the Mosaic Covenant is a conditional covenant made with Israel and not with the church.

The MC involves the 613 "Mitzvoth" laws - blessings for obedience and curses for disobedience. The law was given until the "seed come." Jesus Christ, the seed, has come. Hebrews teaches that the Mosaic Law provides the basis for the Levitical priesthood, but for the new Priesthood to take place (the order of Melchizedek), a change of the law is required. Read Hebrews 7:18-22. The passages in 2 Cor 3:4-11 refer to the Decalogue, saying the commandments written in stone have come to an end. The law of Moses is in obsolescence; the Mosaic Covenant is replaced with the New Covenant.

Under the old covenant, sin is removed through the ritual of sacrifices; in particular, the Day of Atonement (Leviticus 16:1-34). God told His people that a new covenant would be made (Jeremiah 31:33; Ezekiel 36:22-27). The New Covenant is made possible by our Lord Jesus Christ (Heb 8:6-13) who Himself says not to sew old cloth on new (Mark 2:20-21).

You're practising your faith like those adherents stuck in an OT time warp, if you don't mind my saying so. Big Grin
(31-03-2025, 03:40 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]So now u can judge us right?

Who am I to judge you leh? Thinking Let God judge you lah! Big Grin
(31-03-2025, 03:44 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]OK lah ..you are the worst of sinners..so am l the worst of sinners here lah Big Grin

I only quoted Paul's words lah! Big Grin God wants everyone to be saved lah!
(31-03-2025, 01:43 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]If you call yourselves Christians, do you live up to your calling leh? Thinking Are you only a Sunday Christian leh? You don't have to answer me lah! Big Grin But God knows you lah!

Matthew 7:1-5 (NIV):

"1 ‘Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3 Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, “Let me take the speck out of your eye,” when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.’”  Big Grin
(01-04-2025, 06:50 AM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]I only quoted Paul's words lah! Big Grin God wants everyone to be saved lah!

But some do not wish to be saved...what say you? Big Grin
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(31-03-2025, 11:24 PM)S I M T A N Wrote: [ -> ]I appreciate your expansion on your earlier comment regarding the Law, which is a departure from your ritual of just "demonizing" the apostle Paul and saying the law must be obeyed on the say-so of Jesus. Here's the scoop on the Law from the Biblical perspective.

Though sin abounded after the Fall, God gave no law until Moses. Rom 5:13-14 tells us there was no law given from the time of Adam until the time of Moses. The Mosaic Covenant, made with Israel and not with the church, is a conditional covenant and not an unconditional covenant. Plse read Exodus 24. Because it's conditional, it can be broken and annulled. Unconditional covenants, on the other hand, are not broken. God makes them and fulfilled by God without condition. Again, the Mosaic Covenant is a conditional covenant made with Israel and not with the church.

The MC involves the 613 "Mitzvoth" laws - blessings for obedience and curses for disobedience. The law was given until the "seed come." Jesus Christ, the seed, has come. Hebrews teaches that the Mosaic Law provides the basis for the Levitical priesthood, but for the new Priesthood to take place (the order of Melchizedek), a change of the law is required. Read Hebrews 7:18-22. The passages in 2 Cor 3:4-11 refer to the Decalogue, saying the commandments written in stone have come to an end. The law of Moses is in obsolescence; the Mosaic Covenant is replaced with the New Covenant.

Under the old covenant, sin is removed through the ritual of sacrifices; in particular, the Day of Atonement (Leviticus 16:1-34). God told His people that a new covenant would be made (Jeremiah 31:33; Ezekiel 36:22-27). The New Covenant is made possible by our Lord Jesus Christ (Heb 8:6-13) who Himself says not to sew old cloth on new (Mark 2:20-21).

You're practising your faith like those adherents stuck in an OT time warp, if you don't mind my saying so. Big Grin

Good morning and thank you for the reply. I enjoy early mornings because its peaceful when my clients have not started working yet. So I get to do this, replying to you.



(31-03-2025, 11:24 PM)S I M T A N Wrote: [ -> ]Here's the scoop on the Law from the Biblical perspective.

When you say Biblical perspective, do the learned rabbis agree with Paul? Do they think the Law will ever be annulled? The answer is no.

What about their scripture? Does it agree with Paul that the Law is a curse? The answer is no. We have already seen many verses from the Jewish scripture that the law is a grace and mercy from God.



(31-03-2025, 11:24 PM)S I M T A N Wrote: [ -> ]Though sin abounded after the Fall, God gave no law until Moses. Rom 5:13-14 tells us there was no law given from the time of Adam until the time of Moses.

The first rule of the law was "Don't eat that apple" and that was at the time of Adam. Agree? From then on, more and more laws were sent down on people through the messengers. And yes, the law can be changed with addition or abrogation, but there must always be law. The law also serves as guidance on how we should live our lives. No one knows how best to live our lives but God alone.



(31-03-2025, 11:24 PM)S I M T A N Wrote: [ -> ]Under the old covenant, sin is removed through the ritual of sacrifices;

Not all sins. Some sins cannot be removed through ritual sacrifice. Take illicit sex, for example. If you commit adultery, that sin cannot be removed by just sacrificing a goat or a cow. Agree? The sins will be removed only through repentance, seeking forgiveness, and refraining. So, sacrifice cannot remove all sins.

Without God's law, we are workers of iniquity. As it is written in the Jewish scriptures, God hates workers of iniquity.
(01-04-2025, 06:48 AM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]Who am I to judge you leh? Thinking Let God judge you lah! Big Grin

Correct let God judge you for saying I show off my testimonies to lead people to Christ
Envy is a sin