(09-03-2025, 05:43 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]I believe what Jesus said in the Bible and obey Him lah! 
I'm more bothered that you still don't believe lah!
Jesus said, in John 17:3, that the true God is only 1 person. You want me to believe that it is 3 persons.
Why?
(09-03-2025, 05:49 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Jesus said, in John 17:3, that the true God is only 1 person. You want me to believe that it is 3 persons.
Why?
God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit -- God is ONE GOD lah!
The Holy Trinity is God and Jesus is God became Man lah! I know it's confusing lah!
(09-03-2025, 06:01 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit -- God is ONE GOD lah! The Holy Trinity is God and Jesus is God became Man lah! I know it's confusing lah!
Yet, Jesus said the true God is ONLY 1 person.
Who should I listen to, you or Jesus?
(09-03-2025, 06:01 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit -- God is ONE GOD lah! The Holy Trinity is God and Jesus is God became Man lah! I know it's confusing lah!
His religion included a man more confusing
A man who can promise salvation ?
(09-03-2025, 06:35 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]His religion included a man more confusing
A man who can promise salvation ?
You're spreading lies about my religion.
You are the biggest liar...you can lie to advance your agenda...you said that because we are living under Muhammad times and that is why we mention Muhammad in the shahada....then this video, beside Muhammad, why Jesus is also mention as His messenger in the end....both cannot be living in the same time..this shahada is Innovation!
https://youtube.com/shorts/tznc50e3ofk?s...J47bID6w7z
(09-03-2025, 06:54 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]You are the biggest liar...you can lie to advance your agenda...you said that because we are living under Muhammad times and that is why we mention Muhammad in the shahada....then this video, beside Muhammad, why Jesus is also mention as His messenger in the end....both cannot be living in the same time..this shahada is Innovation!
https://youtube.com/shorts/tznc50e3ofk?s...J47bID6w7z
It is added if that person wanted to add Jesus as a messenger.
Because those Christian feel , They were mislead by their previous belief.
(09-03-2025, 03:35 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]https://youtu.be/K8DnIm1FkF4?si=Llbg1A5WRxpNdzLK
😲
(09-03-2025, 05:42 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]What makes you think this anti-Islam youtuber will tell you the truth about Islam? The only reason he is still around is because Christians are happy to pay him a lot of money just to spread lies about Islam.
“Many among the People of the Book wish they could turn you ˹believers˺ back to disbelief because of their envy, after the truth has been made clear to them. Pardon and bear with them until Allah delivers His decision. Surely Allah is Most Capable of everything”Quran 2:109
(09-03-2025, 06:54 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]You are the biggest liar...you can lie to advance your agenda...you said that because we are living under Muhammad times and that is why we mention Muhammad in the shahada....then this video, beside Muhammad, why Jesus is also mention as His messenger in the end....both cannot be living in the same time..this shahada is Innovation!
https://youtube.com/shorts/tznc50e3ofk?s...J47bID6w7z
Cannot point out their confusion they cannot take it 😂
(09-03-2025, 08:19 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]It is added if that person wanted to add Jesus as a messenger.
Because those Christian feel , They were mislead by their previous belief.
You mean you can change the contents of the Shahada by adding extras? But your buddy says the Shahada is for different times different prophet
Adding Jesus or any other prophet to the Shahada would contradict the fundamental tenets of Islamic belief, particularly the concept of Tawhid (the oneness of God) and the belief in Muhammad as the final prophet..
First Islam says that one who submits to one God is a moslem, and then you have to acknowledge Muhammad to be a moslem and now you even change your shahada to suit certain individuals.....Is Islam becoming commercialize...
This poor British lady said the Shahada wrongly...that is sad
The 2 anti Christ during Ramadan very busy attacking
Can go paradise ?
(09-03-2025, 08:32 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Cannot point out their confusion they cannot take it 😂
They can come up with alot of excuses....
(09-03-2025, 08:33 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]You mean you can change the contents of the Shahada by adding extras? But your buddy says the Shahada is for different times different prophet
Adding Jesus or any other prophet to the Shahada would contradict the fundamental tenets of Islamic belief, particularly the concept of Tawhid (the oneness of God) and the belief in Muhammad as the final prophet..
First Islam says that one who submits to one God is a moslem, and then you have to acknowledge Muhammad to be a moslem and now you even change your shahada to suit certain individuals.....Is Islam becoming commercialize...
This poor British lady said the Shahada wrongly...that is sad
Is it so difficult to get things together?
Antichrists in the Bible are simply those who deny Jesus was the Christ, and that he came "in the flesh." Everything else is a much-later conflation of other words and verses into the concept of "antichrist" that was originally limited to the author of 1 and 2 John.
For Sunni Muslims the Shahadah is: "There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is the Prophet of Allah." Shi'a Muslims add an extra phrase to the Shahadah: "
And Ali is the friend of God." This shows their belief that Ali, Muhammad's cousin, was the true successor of Muhammad.
The whole Kampong also come to the dance?
Ali is a friend of God
(09-03-2025, 08:32 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Cannot point out their confusion they cannot take it 😂
(09-03-2025, 08:34 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]The 2 anti Christ during Ramadan very busy attacking
Can go paradise ?
(09-03-2025, 08:36 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Confusing religion leh
(09-03-2025, 08:37 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]They can come up with alot of excuses....
(09-03-2025, 08:40 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]
We are not confused.you should be confused 👌
Jesus has faked name
His disciples have faked names
Books have been written by anonymous writers.
All of Jesus disciples were not Christian
Everything fake, the golden ticket to delusional heaven should be fake as well.
“Allah has promised the hypocrites, both men and women, and the disbelievers an everlasting stay in the Fire of Hell—it is sufficient for them. Allah has condemned them, and they will suffer a never-ending punishment.”Quran 9:68
(09-03-2025, 08:33 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]You mean you can change the contents of the Shahada by adding extras? But your buddy says the Shahada is for different times different prophet
Adding Jesus or any other prophet to the Shahada would contradict the fundamental tenets of Islamic belief, particularly the concept of Tawhid (the oneness of God) and the belief in Muhammad as the final prophet..
First Islam says that one who submits to one God is a moslem, and then you have to acknowledge Muhammad to be a moslem and now you even change your shahada to suit certain individuals.....Is Islam becoming commercialize...
This poor British lady said the Shahada wrongly...that is sad
She wanted to reject Jesus as a god.That is why
They add as per her request.
She must have had a great anger for misleading her entire life by church.
(09-03-2025, 11:23 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]She wanted to reject Jesus as a god.That is why
They add as per her request.
She must have had a great anger for misleading her entire life by church.
No..islàm already reject Jesus as God so nợ need to mention Jesus in the Shahada ....it does not make sense..
You look at this old lady.. she is dying..do you think she is angry?
I love the Ahmadis...I believe they are the true moslems
(09-03-2025, 11:27 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]No..islàm already reject Jesus as God so nợ need to mention Jesus in the Shahada ....it does not make sense..
You look at this old lady.. she is dying..do you think she is angry?
She converted from Christianity.
She should have anger for ruining her life promising delusional heaven
(09-03-2025, 11:28 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]I love the Ahmadis...I believe they are the true moslems
Both your church and Ahamadi tithes from members.
Both are in the same boat 😂👍Greedy for money 💰 . Leaders are enjoying luxuries .
Do you love catholic, Pentecostal, Baptist, Mormon?
(09-03-2025, 11:31 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Both your church and Ahamadi tithes from members.
Both are in the same boat 😂👍
Do you love catholic, Pentecostal, Baptist?
Catholics or other denominations preach the same thing...the Holy Trinity..we have no problems..
Can a sunni marry a Shia? I don think so.
(09-03-2025, 11:30 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]She converted from Christianity.
She should have anger for ruining her life promising delusional heaven
The video did not say that she converted from Christianity....maybe she was a free thinker all her life...maybe the moslems con her into declaring the shahada
(09-03-2025, 08:36 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Confusing religion leh
Your friend is confused and he is confusing you. We are not confused.
(09-03-2025, 11:36 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Catholics or other denominations preach the same thing...the Holy Trinity..we have no problems..
Can a sunni marry a Shia? I don think so.
Sunni can marry Shia
Muslim can marry Christian and Jews as well.
Sunni and Shia can pray at each other’s mosques.
(09-03-2025, 11:38 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]The video did not say that she converted from Christianity....maybe she was a free thinker all her life...maybe the moslems con her into declaring the shahada
She was a Christian,a member of the Church of England.
(09-03-2025, 11:39 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Sunni can marry Shia
Muslim can marry Christian and Jews as well.
You sure?
Marriages between Sunnis and Shias illustrate the sensitivity of the sectarian divide. Some hardline Sunni Muslim clerics opine that
Sunni-Shia marriages are not allowed in Islam as Shi'ism is seen as a deviation from Islam.