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(24-01-2025, 03:38 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Why?
Explain

I'll explain later. For now, tell me, who was giving the right teaching? Paul or James?
(24-01-2025, 03:03 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]So who is right? Paul or James?
Salvation is not about which prophet is right 
It’s about believe that Christ came to save the world whoever believe in Him
(24-01-2025, 03:38 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]I'll explain later. For now, tell me, who was giving the right teaching? Paul or James?
I already told u
(24-01-2025, 03:40 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]I already told u

What you told me earlier is false.

I already told you. Paul was teaching the Jews that they don't have to follow the Law but James disagreed with him.
(24-01-2025, 03:38 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]I'll explain later. For now, tell me, who was giving the right teaching? Paul or James?

If I say that both Paul and James were right in their teachings, what will you say leh, Ali? Thinking
(24-01-2025, 03:51 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]If I say that both Paul and James were right in their teachings, what will you say leh, Ali? Thinking

Paul said you don't need to follow the Law. James said you must follow the Law. 

They both cannot be right.
(24-01-2025, 03:52 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Paul said you don't need to follow the Law. James said you must follow the Law. 

They both cannot be right.

Thank you for your reply lah! Big Grin We need to go back to the Bible where Paul met James at the Jerusalem Council in Acts chapter 15 lah!
(24-01-2025, 03:40 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]I already told u
(24-01-2025, 03:55 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]Thank you for your reply lah! Big Grin We need to go back to the Bible where Paul met James at the Jerusalem Council in Acts chapter 15 lah!

Acts 21. 

Paul was counseled by the Church (James) for teaching the Jews to discard the law.

In James 2, we see James opposing Paul's teachings, which James considered foolish.
(24-01-2025, 04:03 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Acts 21. 

Paul was counseled by the Church (James) for teaching the Jews to discard the law.

In James 2, we see James opposing Paul's teachings, which James considered foolish.

I'll read and then come back to you lah! Big Grin
(24-01-2025, 04:05 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]I'll read and then come back to you lah! Big Grin

Yes, please do come back.
(24-01-2025, 03:39 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Salvation is not about which prophet is right 
It’s about believe that Christ came to save the world whoever believe in Him

Who told you to believe that? Paul. So, if it can be proven that Paul was wrong, why do you still want to follow his teachings? Is it because of the golden ticket?
(24-01-2025, 04:09 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Who told you to believe that? Paul. So, if it can be proven that Paul was wrong, why do you still want to follow his teachings? Is it because of the golden ticket?

Paul and James believed in and taught the same gospel. They served the same God. And we can wholeheartedly study both James and the books of Paul, as well as the rest of the Old and New Testament, with great confidence that this is one harmonious, glorious message supremely authored by none other than God Himself.
(24-01-2025, 04:22 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Paul and James believed in and taught the same gospel. They served the same God. And we can wholeheartedly study both James and the books of Paul, as well as the rest of the Old and New Testament, with great confidence that this is one harmonious, glorious message supremely authored by none other than God Himself.

I know you c/p that from some site. It's not your own words.

What you should do is think about it. Paul and James DID NOT preach the same gospel. Paul said so himself in Galatians 2, that his gospel is different from the disciples. So the 3 sentences you copied from some site are not telling you the truth.
(24-01-2025, 04:22 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Paul and James believed in and taught the same gospel. They served the same God. And we can wholeheartedly study both James and the books of Paul, as well as the rest of the Old and New Testament, with great confidence that this is one harmonious, glorious message supremely authored by none other than God Himself.

See how that article lied to you. 

In the book of James, we read of James rebuking the teachings of Paul. That is clear proof that they were NOT on the same page.
(24-01-2025, 04:42 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]See how that article lied to you. 

In the book of James, we read of James rebuking the teachings of Paul. That is clear proof that they were NOT on the same page.


Not same page 
Still same Bible 
Paul was chosen n taught by Jesus to preach to the Gentiles
U will argue till cow comes home 
Who are we to judge ?
They both acknowledge that a true faith will naturally produce good works....moslems also follow this teachings by Paul and James lah... Big Grin
(24-01-2025, 05:15 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Paul was chosen n taught by Jesus to preach to the Gentiles

That was what Paul said. James didn't believe him. 

So who is right?
(24-01-2025, 05:22 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]That was what Paul said. James didn't believe him. 

So who is right?

I am right 
😊
(24-01-2025, 05:25 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]I am right 
😊

Think man. Use your God-given brain. 

Paul claimed he was chosen by Jesus but James didn't believe Paul. Nor did Peter. Imagine that. The disciples of Jesus disbelieved Paul.
(24-01-2025, 05:31 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Think man. Use your God-given brain. 

Paul claimed he was chosen by Jesus but James didn't believe Paul. Nor did Peter. Imagine that. The disciples of Jesus disbelieved Paul.

U die die insist that I must admit Paul was wrong 
Who am I to judge ?
They are God’s chosen disciples not anti Christ who
Killed Christians that is more worrisome
(24-01-2025, 05:35 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]U die die insist that I must admit Paul was wrong 
Who am I to judge ?
They are God’s chosen disciples not anti Christ

James already said Paul was wrong and Paul already admitted that by taking the Nazarite vow.

And remember. Paul's claim of being chosen by Jesus was rejected by James. So how come you can still believe Paul?

The answer is in the history of early Christians, how your brand of Christianity became the dominant force that wiped off the other followers of Jesus.
(24-01-2025, 05:39 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]James already said Paul was wrong and Paul already admitted that by taking the Nazarite vow.

And remember. Paul's claim of being chosen by Jesus was rejected by James. So how come you can still believe Paul?

The answer is in the history of early Christians, how your brand of Christianity became the dominant force that wiped off the other followers of Jesus.

Worry about your own path lah 
So
Many errors in your Koran shown in utube but u want to teach us Bible ?
(24-01-2025, 05:45 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Worry about your own path lah 
So
Many errors in your Koran shown in utube but u want to teach us Bible ?

Youtube? LOL

Btw, I'm just asking you, who is right between James and Paul. I am not teaching you the Bible. 

There are many such contradictions in the Bible. That is the reason why churches in western countries are closing shop.
(24-01-2025, 05:59 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Youtube? LOL

Btw, I'm just asking you, who is right between James and Paul. I am not teaching you the Bible. 

There are many such contradictions in the Bible. That is the reason why churches in western countries are closing shop.

This is more surprising 

50,000 mosques have closed in Iran – Are Iranians seeking truth outside of Islam?
Unrest and distrust of the Islamic government are leading many away from Islam; Evangelical broadcasts and ministries are leading many to Christ
Lukongsimi
This is more surprising 

50,000 mosques have closed in Iran – Are Iranians seeking truth outside of Islam?
Unrest and distrust of the Islamic government are leading many away from Islam; Evangelical broadcasts and ministries are leading many to Christ

We can also say because Paul and James statements compliment each other therefore we are witnessing significant growth in Christianity in Iran and iraq
(24-01-2025, 06:04 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]This is more surprising 

50,000 mosques have closed in Iran – Are Iranians seeking truth outside of Islam?
Unrest and distrust of the Islamic government are leading many away from Islam; Evangelical broadcasts and ministries are leading many to Christ

Why are you so gullible?
(24-01-2025, 06:24 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]

You are indeed gullible.
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