(22-08-2025, 05:57 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Will the Jews in Israel, who have been waiting for the Messiah to appear any moment now, present a Muslim as the Messiah?
U happy hear Muslim as the faked messiah coming is it ?
(22-08-2025, 09:54 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]U happy hear Muslim as the faked messiah coming is it ?
ALL Muslims already know Jesus is the Messiah.
You support the people who are bringing in a new Messiah. Will you support this new Messiah that the Jews will unveil soon?
(23-08-2025, 06:25 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]ALL Muslims already know Jesus is the Messiah.
You support the people who are bringing in a new Messiah. Will you support this new Messiah that the Jews will unveil soon?
This coming anti christ likely from your religion u think I support them
You must be crazy
I think u will support them since it’s your kind correct?✅
(23-08-2025, 07:46 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]This coming anti christ likely from your religion u think I support them
You must be crazy
I think u will support them since it’s your kind correct?✅
I repeat.
ALL Muslims believe Jesus, the son of Mary, pbuh, is the Messiah, the Christ. As such, there can never be a Muslim who claims to be Christ. Anybody who claims to be the Christ is
DEFINITELY NOT A MUSLIM.
I hope that is clear for you.
(23-08-2025, 07:55 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]I repeat.
ALL Muslims believe Jesus, the son of Mary, pbuh, is the Messiah, the Christ. As such, there can never be a Muslim who claims to be Christ. Anybody who claims to be the Christ is DEFINITELY NOT A MUSLIM.
I hope that is clear for you.
1 John 2:21-22 New International Version (NIV) I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.
So do you deny The Father and Son?
(23-08-2025, 08:53 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]1 John 2:21-22 New International Version (NIV) I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.
Thank you. That defeats your argument that a Muslim will claim to be the Christ because ALL Muslims accept Jesus as the Messiah.
(23-08-2025, 08:55 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Thank you. That defeats your argument that a Muslim will claim to be the Christ because ALL Muslims accept Jesus as the Messiah.
Read properly lah
Do moslems admit Jesus is the Christ and not deny The Father and The Son ?
(23-08-2025, 09:01 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Read properly lah
Do moslems admit Jesus is the Christ and not deny The Father and The Son ?
I will repeat again.
ALL MUSLIMS believe Jesus is the Christ.
ALL MUSLIMS believe in God (the Father).
ALL MUSLIMS believe in Jesus (the Son).
So, the verse in 1 John 2 defeats your argument.
(23-08-2025, 09:04 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]I will repeat again.
ALL MUSLIMS believe Jesus is the Christ.
ALL MUSLIMS believe in God (the Father).
ALL MUSLIMS believe in Jesus (the Son).
So, the verse in 1 John 2 defeats your argument.
Where in the Koran can u find those words ?
Are u lying again?
(23-08-2025, 09:07 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Where in the Koran can u find those words ?
Are u lying again?
I gave you 3 points and they are basics in Islam.
If you want to accuse me of lying, please provide your proof.
(23-08-2025, 09:11 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]I gave you 3 points and they are basics in Islam.
If you want to accuse me of lying, please provide your proof.
U are a liar u can’t provide the proof in your Koran lol
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(23-08-2025, 09:11 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]I gave you 3 points and they are basics in Islam.
If you want to accuse me of lying, please provide your proof.
U are a liar u can’t provide the proof in your Koran lol
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(23-08-2025, 09:14 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]U are a liar u can’t provide the proof in your Koran lol
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If you don't know the basics of Islam, that we believe in God, we believe in the prophets, and we believe in the Quran, than you should not be commenting or arguing about Islam.
(23-08-2025, 10:26 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]The Muslims are worshiping the same false god that people have been worshiping since early times as far back as Israel's beginnings.
Most importantly, Muslims say you don’t need to believe in Jesus Christ to be saved! Muslims will admit that Jesus Christ was a true prophet, but deny that He was the Messiah (although some Western Muslims will say He was anointed), they will deny that He was God manifested in the flesh as of the Son of God (John 1:14), and they will deny that He died on the cross and rose again. Does that make sense? Absolutely not! That belief cannot be truth because Jesus Christ Himself said He was the Messiah, and said He was the Son of God!
John 4:26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.
John 9:35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God? 36 He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him? 37 And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee.
Mark 14:61 Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? 62 And Jesus said, I am
That would make Him a false prophet according to the Muslim beliefs! How twisted is that? But it’s a lie believed by one and a half billion people. We absolutely must believe that Jesus Christ is God manifest in the flesh, was crucified for our sins and rose again. This is the gospel!
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
There is no salvation in any other name but Jesus! Not Mohammed, not Buddha; no other name…
Islam says Jesus was not God, that He was never worshiped in the Bible.
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Your copy/paste is telling you something false when it says Muslims deny Jesus is the Messiah. The Quran, which ALL MUSLIMS believe is the word of God, states that Jesus is the Messiah. So, no Muslims will deny Jesus is the Messiah. You have been fed with lies and you swallowed it.
Remember when the angels proclaimed, “O Mary! Allah gives you good news of a word from Him, his name will be the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary; honoured in this world and the Hereafter, and he will be one of those nearest to Allah" - Quran 3:45
(23-08-2025, 10:45 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]N this u deny?
they will deny that He was God manifested in the flesh as of the Son of God (John 1:14), and they will deny that He died on the cross and rose again
The question is about Jesus being the Messiah. In 1 John 2, the antichrist will be the one who denies that Jesus is the Messiah. Based on that point alone, it rules out Muslims because ALL MUSLIMS believe Jesus is the Messiah.
So, your argument is defeated by the Bible verse you quoted.
Admit that first, and then we can move to other points.
(23-08-2025, 10:49 AM)I Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]The question is about Jesus being the Messiah. In 1 John 2, the antichrist will be the one who denies that Jesus is the Messiah. Based on that point alone, it rules out Muslims because ALL MUSLIMS believe Jesus is the Messiah.
So, your argument is defeated by the Bible verse you quoted.
Admit that first, and then we can move to other points.
U didn’t proof what u said about the 3 points in your Koran
What about this
The Jesus of the Quran isn't the same person as Our Savior. He doesn't say the same things - in fact he says he is not to be worshipped (Quran 5:116) - nor does he teach any great life lessons. He doesn't say or do much at all except refute Christian beliefs and mind-numbingly affirm Muhammed's absurd claims about himself.
The Jesus in the Quran is not the son of any god (their Allah has no son; Quran 23:91), he isn't crucified or resurrected. The Quran can't even get his Mother straight, confusing her with Mary in the OT (Quran 66:12), who lived a thousand years earlier. The Jesus in the Quran will return to testify against Christians on Judgment Day (Quran 4:159), thereby destroying Christianity.
Until that time he will presumably do what other "good Muslims" do in the afterlife and amuse himself by mocking all the Christians down in Muslim hell. (Quran 7:44)
Really does that sounds like our Lord?
(23-08-2025, 10:52 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]U didn’t proof what u said about the 3 points in your Koran
What about this
The Jesus of the Quran isn't the same person as Our Savior. He doesn't say the same things - in fact he says he is not to be worshipped (Quran 5:116) - nor does he teach any great life lessons. He doesn't say or do much at all except refute Christian beliefs and mind-numbingly affirm Muhammed's absurd claims about himself.
The Jesus in the Quran is not the son of any god (their Allah has no son; Quran 23:91), he isn't crucified or resurrected. The Quran can't even get his Mother straight, confusing her with Mary in the OT (Quran 66:12), who lived a thousand years earlier. The Jesus in the Quran will return to testify against Christians on Judgment Day (Quran 4:159), thereby destroying Christianity.
Until that time he will presumably do what other "good Muslims" do in the afterlife and amuse himself by mocking all the Christians down in Muslim hell. (Quran 7:44)
Really does that sounds like our Lord?
Your argument has been defeated, and you refused to admit it.
Now, you want to move the goalpost. I won't let you do that. First, admit that you're wrong when I've shown you the Quranic verse which says Jesus is the Messiah.
(23-08-2025, 11:03 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Your argument has been defeated, and you refused to admit it.
Now, you want to move the goalpost. I won't let you do that. First, admit that you're wrong when I've shown you the Quranic verse which says Jesus is the Messiah.
In Koran it’s isa not Jesus
Your isa is different
Don’t argue
admit u r wrong n u lie
No point argue with u anti Christ who don’t believe Jesus is Christ
(23-08-2025, 11:11 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]In Koran it’s isa not Jesus
Your isa is different
Don’t argue
admit u r wrong n u lie
No point argue with u anti Christ who don’t believe Jesus is Christ
That's the problem debating with pigeons.
Siao lung everyday come here attack and tell lies
Their is isa
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The Jesus in the Quran is not the son of any god (their Allah has no son; Quran 23:91), he isn't crucified or resurrected. The Quran can't even get his Mother straight, confusing her with Mary in the OT (Quran 66:12), who lived a thousand years earlier. The Jesus in the Quran will return to testify against Christians on Judgment Day (Quran 4:159), thereby destroying Christianity.
Until that time he will presumably do what other "good Muslims" do in the afterlife and amuse himself by mocking all the Christians down in Muslim hell. (Quran 7:44)
Really does that sounds like our Lord?
(23-08-2025, 11:35 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]That's the problem debating with pigeons.
That is why debate with siao lung is the problem
U can’t read what is the truth only lies to win even can’t proof
(23-08-2025, 11:35 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]That's the problem debating with pigeons.
Worse debate with an ignoramus old parrot who refuse to admit his lies
Everyday repeat your lies to attack the Bible
Even blasphemy against trinity what else u can do?
Same shit everyday
(23-08-2025, 11:35 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]That's the problem debating with pigeons.
Worse debate with an ignoramus old parrot who refuse to admit his lies
Everyday repeat your lies to attack the Bible
Even blasphemy against trinity what else u can do?
Same shit everyday
Good that edmw banned u permanently cos u r a dangerous creature
That wicked old parrot would trap u in his words n attack u all he can
That is his daily mission
He will blame Christians for the genocide in Gaza cos he hates the Jews
No where to go that old wicked parrot will squat here everyday to attack what Bible scriptures were posted
His book copied from Bible and altered to a different messiah n expect me to agree with him
Really crazy !