(27-02-2025, 08:13 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]It is funny you don’t know your gospel and close associate of Jesus.
Quran never mentioned about Mary Magdalene,
She is mentioned by name twelve times in the canonical gospels, more than most of the apostles and more than any other woman in the gospels, other than Jesus's family. 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌👌
She was one of the witnesses of the Crucifixion and burial of Jesus ..she was also a disciple of Jesus..why are you interested in her gospel?
(27-02-2025, 08:06 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]You don’t follow the law of old testament.
People who follow Old Testament are called Jews 😭
The Jews were the earliest Christians also
(27-02-2025, 08:33 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]The Jews were the earliest Christians also
Christianity was created by Romans against chosen people
(27-02-2025, 08:32 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]She was one of the witnesses of the Crucifixion and burial of Jesus ..she was also a disciple of Jesus..why are you interested in her gospel?
you know her now 😳😂
She knows why Jesus was actually crucified. That is why conspirators don’t want people to know the truth.
(27-02-2025, 09:50 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]you know her now 😳😂
She knows why Jesus was actually crucified. That is why conspirators don’t want people to know the truth.
She was there when Jesus died...was Muhammad there? Your Quran gave no names no evidences ...just a brief few lines to what happen to Jesus on the cross ..but when it comes to the less important stuff like Mary, the mother of Jesus, the Quran can give her a good lòng writing. .
(27-02-2025, 09:47 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]
removed or missing books/gospels/chapters/pieces of the Bible.
Have we copied anything from your removed or missing books / gospel/ chapters/ pieces of the bibles?😂
Have we copied before or after you removed?😜
You say bible is from God. However YOU humans have power to select the books you like🙈
- Book of Enoch 1, Book of Enoch 2 / The Secrets of Enoch - ***, and Enoch 3 - #
- Book of Esdras 1 and 2
- Book of Maccabees 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5
- Book of Tobit
- Book of Jasher
- Book of Judith
- Book of Esther — Missing sections
- Book of Ecclesiasticus / Sirach
- Book of Jubilees
- Book of Baruch 1, 2, and 3 - *** (Only Baruch 2 and 3 are pseudepigraphic)
- Book of The Shepherd of Hermas
- Book of Wisdom / Wisdom of Solomon
- Book of The Psalms of Solomon - #
- Book of The Odes of Solomon
- Book of Giants - #
- Book of Adam and Eve 1 and 2 / The Conflict of Adam and Eve with Satan
Gospels- The Gospel of James / The Protevangelion
- The Gospel of Peter - ***
- The Gospel of Thomas
- The Gospel of Nicodemus / Acts of Pilate - #
- The Syriac Infancy Gospel / Infancy of Jesus Christ - #
Epistles- The Epistles of Jesus Christ and Abgarus, King of Edessa
- The Epistles of Clement
- The Epistle of Barnabas
- The Epistle of Aristeas - ***
- The Epistle of Jeremiah
- The Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the Laodiceans
- The Epistles of Paul the Apostle to Seneca
- The Epistle of Ignatius to the Ephesians
- The Epistle of Ignatius to the Magnesians
- The Epistle of Ignatius to the Trallians
- The Epistle of Ignatius to the Romans
- The Epistle of Ignatius to the Philadelphians
- The Epistle of Ignatius to the Smyrneans
- The Epistle of Ignatius to Polycarp
- The Epistle of Polycarp to the Philippians
- The Epistle of Herod to Pilate the Governor
- The Epistle of Pilate to Herod
Others — Chapters, pieces, special works- Assumption of Moses - # / ***
- Apocalypse of Moses - #
- Testament of Abraham - ***
- Apocalypse of Abraham - ***
- Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs - #
- The Acts of Paul - ***
- The Acts of Paul and Thecla - #
- The Apostles Creed
- Psalm 151 — Missing chapter in the Book of Psalms
- Story of Susanna — Missing chapter in the Book of Daniel (Chapter 13)
- Story of Bel and The Dragon — Missing chapter in the Book of Daniel (Chapter 14)
- Story of Ahikar
- The Prayer of Azariah and the Songs of the Three Holy Children — Missing piece in Chapter 3 in the Book of Daniel
- Prayer of Manasseh — Missing piece in Chapter 33 in the Book of Chronicles 2
Ìf They didn't select then the book is not trustworthy..
(27-02-2025, 09:21 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Ya loh why like that?
If you study the story in detail, you will see that the Quran does not copy from the Bible. For example, both have the story of the fall of Adam. In the Bible, the woman is blamed for the fall of Adam, but in the Quran, both were blamed. See the difference?
Another one. Both have the story of Prophet Joseph. The Bible says he met with the Pharaoh, but in the Quran, it states that he met with a King. Today, we know that at the time of Joseph, there was no Pharaoh. So in this case, the Quran was spot on. If the Quran copied from the Bible, why did it not copy that mistake as well?
Think pengyu. Don't just believe your friend who is a known liar.
That moslem talked abt Adam ,one might wonder where in the Quran the name of Adam's wife is mentioned.
The Quran does not explicitly name her, referring to her simply as Adam's wife. To find her name, one would need to look to the Bible, where she is identified as Eve.
what happen to the supreme authority self claiming to be fully detailed?
(27-02-2025, 12:02 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]We are all sinners waiting to be judged.
Religions cannot save your soul
God does not live in a temple made by man.
You got to know the one who has the key to heaven n hell
That is Lord Jesus Christ.
😊
I thought you are already sure you will be saved? Why is there a need for judgement?
(27-02-2025, 10:42 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]I was told by the angels that Jesus name is Jesus not Isa
We pray in Jesus name not in Isa name
Argue for what?
How did the angel speak to you? What does it look like?
(27-02-2025, 10:35 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]She was there when Jesus died...was Muhammad there? Your Quran gave no names no evidences ...just a brief few lines to what happen to Jesus on the cross ..but when it comes to the less important stuff like Mary, the mother of Jesus, the Quran can give her a good lòng writing. .
Muhammad wasn’t there. But Allah was there .That’s why Allah could give the truth behind crucifixion.
Why should Allah give important to the birth of Mary and also delivery of a miraculous baby?To refute the allegations of Jews who accused her for delivering an illegitimate child.
Mary was born on special circumstance.
Her son Jesus was born miraculously .
(27-02-2025, 09:47 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]
removed or missing books/gospels/chapters/pieces of the Bible.
Have we copied anything from your removed or missing books / gospel/ chapters/ pieces of the bibles?😂
Have we copied before or after you removed?😜
You say bible is from God. However YOU humans have power to select the books you like🙈
- Book of Enoch 1, Book of Enoch 2 / The Secrets of Enoch - ***, and Enoch 3 - #
- Book of Esdras 1 and 2
- Book of Maccabees 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5
- Book of Tobit
- Book of Jasher
- Book of Judith
- Book of Esther — Missing sections
- Book of Ecclesiasticus / Sirach
- Book of Jubilees
- Book of Baruch 1, 2, and 3 - *** (Only Baruch 2 and 3 are pseudepigraphic)
- Book of The Shepherd of Hermas
- Book of Wisdom / Wisdom of Solomon
- Book of The Psalms of Solomon - #
- Book of The Odes of Solomon
- Book of Giants - #
- Book of Adam and Eve 1 and 2 / The Conflict of Adam and Eve with Satan
Gospels- The Gospel of James / The Protevangelion
- The Gospel of Peter - ***
- The Gospel of Thomas
- The Gospel of Nicodemus / Acts of Pilate - #
- The Syriac Infancy Gospel / Infancy of Jesus Christ - #
Epistles- The Epistles of Jesus Christ and Abgarus, King of Edessa
- The Epistles of Clement
- The Epistle of Barnabas
- The Epistle of Aristeas - ***
- The Epistle of Jeremiah
- The Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the Laodiceans
- The Epistles of Paul the Apostle to Seneca
- The Epistle of Ignatius to the Ephesians
- The Epistle of Ignatius to the Magnesians
- The Epistle of Ignatius to the Trallians
- The Epistle of Ignatius to the Romans
- The Epistle of Ignatius to the Philadelphians
- The Epistle of Ignatius to the Smyrneans
- The Epistle of Ignatius to Polycarp
- The Epistle of Polycarp to the Philippians
- The Epistle of Herod to Pilate the Governor
- The Epistle of Pilate to Herod
Others — Chapters, pieces, special works- Assumption of Moses - # / ***
- Apocalypse of Moses - #
- Testament of Abraham - ***
- Apocalypse of Abraham - ***
- Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs - #
- The Acts of Paul - ***
- The Acts of Paul and Thecla - #
- The Apostles Creed
- Psalm 151 — Missing chapter in the Book of Psalms
- Story of Susanna — Missing chapter in the Book of Daniel (Chapter 13)
- Story of Bel and The Dragon — Missing chapter in the Book of Daniel (Chapter 14)
- Story of Ahikar
- The Prayer of Azariah and the Songs of the Three Holy Children — Missing piece in Chapter 3 in the Book of Daniel
- Prayer of Manasseh — Missing piece in Chapter 33 in the Book of Chronicles 2
(27-02-2025, 10:38 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Ìf They didn't select then the book is not trustworthy..
Your answer is so simple!It is not one book you have dropped, dozens 😭
When were those dropped?
Who were those authors?
What is your vetting process to confirm if those are trustworthy?
What happened to people who believed and followed those books?
Are those current books trustworthy?
Are those current books have any anonymous writers ?
If current books are trustworthy, why should each group of you have different set of bible?
(27-02-2025, 11:52 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]That moslem talked abt Adam ,one might wonder where in the Quran the name of Adam's wife is mentioned.
The Quran does not explicitly name her, referring to her simply as Adam's wife. To find her name, one would need to look to the Bible, where she is identified as Eve.
what happen to the supreme authority self claiming to be fully detailed?
Quran has mentioned the names of 25 prophets. None of their wives names have been mentioned.Why should Quran mention their name?Any reason?
Why should Muslims follow the bible? You confirmed that dozens of your books weren’t trustworthy.How do you know those wives names in your bible are true ?
No Muslims follow your bible.
(28-02-2025, 08:33 AM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Your answer is so simple!It is not one book you have dropped, dozens 😭
When were those dropped?
Who were those authors?
What is your vetting process to confirm if those are trustworthy?
What happened to people who believed and followed those books?
Are those current books trustworthy?
Are those current books have any anonymous writers ?
If current books are trustworthy, why should each group of you have different set of bible?
The OT and NT are the same everywhere...some denominations carry extra books and that is only for additional reading....but no denominations preach the infancy gospel of Thomas because it is not a trustworthy source and there Islam decides to pick it up and tell us similar stories
(28-02-2025, 08:24 AM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Muhammad wasn’t there. But Allah was there .That’s why Allah could give the truth behind crucifixion.
Why should Allah give important to the birth of Mary and also delivery of a miraculous baby?To refute the allegations of Jews who accused her for delivering an illegitimate child.
Mary was born on special circumstance.
Her son Jesus was born miraculously .
So you say Allah could give the truth to the crucifixion? So who did Allah make to resemble Jesus on the cross? What is his name? Did he die on the cross? Why did a sinless Jesus allow someone to die in his place?
Pls tell me the truth as Allah instructed..
(28-02-2025, 08:39 AM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Quran has mentioned the names of 25 prophets. None of their wives names have been mentioned.Why should Quran mention their name?Any reason?
Why should Muslims follow the bible? You confirmed that dozens of your books weren’t trustworthy.How do you know those wives names in your bible are true ?
No Muslims follow your bible.
Adam and Eve are the first human couple . They were created by God and placed in the Garden of Eden. Their story is important in various religious and cultural contexts, as it talks about creation, temptation, free will, and the consequences of choice...This is bigger than Abrahim sacrificing his son which I have no idea why moslems celebrate...How can the Quran leave out the name of the mother of all creations and still claim to be fully detailed....
The Quran also leave out the Passover and plenty more....how can it be the word of God when it is simply lacking...The Quran can be viewed by some as uninspired writings created by unmotivated authors.
(28-02-2025, 09:18 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]So you say Allah could give the truth to the crucifixion? So who did Allah make to resemble Jesus on the cross? What is his name? Did he die on the cross? Why did a sinless Jesus allow someone to die in his place?
Pls tell me the truth as Allah instructed..
When you attend court proceedings, everything is meticulously recorded, including detailed minutes, all the names of witnesses, and comprehensive explanations of the case....nothing is missing from the truth...compare this to the Quran... the Quran is missing all the pieces!
(28-02-2025, 08:09 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]How did the angel speak to you? What does it look like?
I already mentioned bef here
No repeated questions
(27-02-2025, 11:41 AM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]If you think that you have been to church since small boy attending Sunday School so you can go to heaven, think again hor! You can call Jesus Lord but He can say, "I don't know you" lah!
If you are gg to tell the above to unbelievers do u think u can help to spread the good news or bad news?
Unbelievers will be scared to go church and follow Christ
(28-02-2025, 08:39 AM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]No Muslims follow your bible.
U r wrong many ex Muslims converted and read the Bible 😆
(28-02-2025, 10:14 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]I already mentioned bef here
No repeated questions
Last time He said he felt a presence when he prays...the entity that was behind him was the devil lah...
(28-02-2025, 10:45 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]U r wrong many ex Muslims converted and read the Bible 😆
Ex means they are not Muslims any more.They can read anything they desire.
O believers! Whoever among you abandons their faith, Allah will replace them with others who love Him and are loved by Him. They will be humble with the believers but firm towards the disbelievers, struggling in the Way of Allah; fearing no blame from anyone. This is the favour of Allah. He grants it to whoever He wills. And Allah is All-Bountiful, All-Knowing.Quran 5:54