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(22-03-2025, 09:41 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Hope is woman like to use 
The way she answers I knew she can’t be a man 
Or ark Gua?

  Hope works in fashion industry...He/she is not Singaporean...I think he/she has white skin

(22-03-2025, 09:45 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]  Hope works in fashion industry...He/she is not Singaporean...I think he/she has white skin

She is not Chinese not Malay 
Don’t understand Arabic 
But why she is secretive about her race when asked?
African?

(22-03-2025, 09:54 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]She is not Chinese not Malay 
Don’t understand Arabic 
But why she is secretive about her race when asked?
African?

You see that old moslem can't be bothered with Quranic verses and you take a look at Hope...every now and then she puts in quranic verses so thoughtful, so generous of her to share...

(22-03-2025, 10:17 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]You see that old moslem can't be bothered with Quranic verses and you take a look at Hope...every now and then she puts in quranic verses so thoughtful, so generous of her to share...

When I read her posted Koran 
I don’t feel at ease lol just glance thru 

The other moslem is half half not genuine moslem ?

(22-03-2025, 10:25 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]When I read her posted Koran 
I don’t feel at ease lol just glance thru 

The other moslem is half half not genuine moslem ?

Both also fake moslems without much Islamic knowledge

(22-03-2025, 12:49 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Both also fake moslems without much Islamic knowledge

you are better than them😂

(22-03-2025, 12:51 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]you are better than them😂

If they require a non moslem to explain to them everything then you know their standards..
It is time for them to wake up...

Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?
John 14/9..


“For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.””
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10‬:‭12‬-‭13‬ ‭NIV

Allah is oneness but it is OK for Him to use the plural "we" when He speaks but it is not OK for our God to exist eternally in three distinct persons.....you see the double standard and hypocrisy in Islam?

(22-03-2025, 03:08 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Allah is oneness but it is OK for Him to use the plural "we" when He speaks but it is not OK for our God to exist eternally in three distinct persons.....you see the double standard and hypocrisy in Islam?

That is why Islam is formed to oust out Christianity 
In the garden of eden there were peace n blessings until Satan came n deceived Adam n eve to oust them out of the garden 
Man has to sweat for food while woman has to endure birth pain.

(22-03-2025, 07:47 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Because it is illogical to believe in a square circle.

Because the Bible already states that God is NOT a man.

Because the Bible already states that God cannot be seen.

Because Jesus already said only the Father is the true God.

Because God cannot have a God and Jesus has a God.

Because God cannot die as stated in 1 Tim 6:16 but you believe God died.

Those are just off the top of my head. If I look up, I will have plenty more reasons that i can show you.

(22-03-2025, 07:50 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]If you obey Jesus, you would not be a Christian or believe Jesus is God.

Jesus said obey the commandments for your salvation. Paul said no need to obey the commandments. You listen to Paul instead of Jesus.

Wake up pengyu.

I don't want to argue with you lah, my friend!

(22-03-2025, 03:55 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]I don't want to argue with you lah, my friend!

You asked why I won't believe Jesus is God and I gave you a whole lot of reasons. You cannot argue against them. So don't argue if you cannot argue.

But do think carefully. You have a whole lifetime to think it over but you only get 1 life. There is no do over.

(22-03-2025, 04:12 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]You asked why I won't believe Jesus is God and I gave you a whole lot of reasons. You cannot argue against them. So don't argue if you cannot argue.

But do think carefully. You have a whole lifetime to think it over but you only get 1 life. There is no do over.

I dare not say anything anymore lah!

(22-03-2025, 05:26 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]

Be honest pengyu. If you were there at that time and you saw Jesus praying to God like below, would you ever think he is also God?

(22-03-2025, 05:26 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ] I dare not say anything anymore lah!

OK..you don have to say anything .  just say why Allah is not your God and why you do not go with Islam..

For thousands of years, Jews have studied their Torah, while Christians have examined the Gospel, and both have arrived at similar conclusions....Mana Ahmed?

(22-03-2025, 05:56 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]For thousands of years, Jews have studied their Torah, while Christians have examined the Gospel, and both have arrived at similar conclusions....Mana Ahmed?

Ahmed leh?
Don’t have 
They said Isiah 42/1 
Don’t tally leh

You got to be brave when preach the gospel 

https://youtube.com/shorts/6G_GkQY-GOM?s...526pmXAjG7

(22-03-2025, 08:21 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Ahmed leh?
Don’t have 
They said Isiah 42/1 
Don’t tally leh

Yes...where is the name? I will convert to a moslem if they can show me the name Ahmed

The moslems remember their God 5 times a day, the time for sinning and repenting is made very short

(22-03-2025, 06:46 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]When Jesus said "The Father is in me and I am in him", that's ambiguous. Furthermore, Jesus also said the disciples will be in Jesus and the Father. So you must be careful interpreting that "in". Similarly the "... are one" part. Jesus said the disciples would also be one with Jesus and the Father. You need to be careful interpreting it.

If Jesus is God and believing that is critical to salvation, why would he say it in a cryptic message like those you bolded? And if we cannot decipher the cryptic message or get the hint that he is God, for no fault of ours, we are condemned to hell. Is that a merciful God? On top of that, why didn't Jesus make sure his message that he is God is preserved such that we can be sure of his words and not some interpreters or historians who may have misunderstood his words?

And remember the logical problem of the Trinity and the incarnation. God made us such that we will reject what is illogical. How then can God expect us to believe in something about him that is illogical?

If you were one of the Jew people condemning Jesus for uttering blasphemies, I'm sure you would be dead certain He was guilty as sin, the way your fellow accusers felt it in their bones. That just goes to show that Jesus's proclamation of His deity was not in doubt, coupled with the fact that He was charged with blasphemy.

Now you've the benefit of hindsight, and because you disbelieve Jesus is God, you're wont to plant seeds of doubt in our minds, citing things like the ambiguities in the verses. But we remove ambiguities by adding more details in, for example, the disciples are "in" God and "in" them along with "Ye are gods." These are meant in a derivative sense, not in an absolute sense.

Normally there's a reason why the doctrines of the Incarnation and Trinity seem illogical to you. If the doctrines are not light but darkness to you, then you need to get saved and get into fellowship with God so He can open up your spiritual eyes and the eyes of your understanding so you can behold wondrous truths. If you lean on your own understanding, the Bible will be a closed book to you.

(22-03-2025, 07:34 AM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]Why some people cannot believe and accept that Jesus is God leh?  They just refuse to believe and accept the truth lah!

Why are some people's hearts open and others' hearts are not open or receptive? Someone once said, "The same sun that melts wax will harden clay." In other words, the same gospel that will open some people's hearts will shut the hearts of others because they refuse to accept the truth they're hearing. It's not God's fault that some people persist in keeping their minds and hearts closed to the truth they hear any more than it is the sun's fault for melting wax or hardening clay.

(23-03-2025, 01:42 AM)S I M T A N Wrote: [ -> ]If you were one of the Jew people condemning Jesus for uttering blasphemies, I'm sure you would be dead certain He was guilty as sin, the way your fellow accusers felt it in their bones. That just goes to show that Jesus's proclamation of His deity was not in doubt, coupled with the fact that He was charged with blasphemy.

You are again ignoring the part where Jesus argued against their accusation that he claimed to be God. He denied that he was claiming to be God. That part is apparent in the text. Don't miss it.

(23-03-2025, 01:42 AM)S I M T A N Wrote: [ -> ]Now you've the benefit of hindsight, and because you disbelieve Jesus is God, you're wont to plant seeds of doubt in our minds, citing things like the ambiguities in the verses. But we remove ambiguities by adding more details in, for example, the disciples are "in" God and "in" them along with "Ye are gods." These are meant in a derivative sense, not in an absolute sense.

I believe in God. I believe God is infinite. I know a man is finite. What is infinite cannot be finite at the same time. Believing that would be like believing there is such a thing as a married bachelor or a square circle. If you insist on believing that, you have just bought yourself an underwater hairdryer. You have been duped.

And then, you want to use the same tactic as you did with John 17:3, when you gave a different meaning to the word "only". Here, you want to say the "in" is different but you have been blinded. Clearly, you have been blinded. Jesus said, "... just as you are in me and I am in you, may they also be in us". So there, you cannot differentiate the "in" because, by the grace of God, Jesus said it is the same "in". So, whether the "in" is metaphoric or derivative, it applies to both Jesus and the Father, and the believers as well.

(23-03-2025, 01:42 AM)S I M T A N Wrote: [ -> ]Normally there's a reason why the doctrines of the Incarnation and Trinity seem illogical to you. If the doctrines are not light but darkness to you, then you need to get saved and get into fellowship with God so He can open up your spiritual eyes and the eyes of your understanding so you can behold wondrous truths. If you lean on your own understanding, the Bible will be a closed book to you.

It is illogical. There is no way around it. What is infinite cannot be finite. What is ALL-knowing cannot be ignorant. One is not equal to three. The logical problem of the Trinity cannot be resolved. Period.

(23-03-2025, 01:45 AM)S I M T A N Wrote: [ -> ]Why are some people's hearts open and others' hearts are not open or receptive? Someone once said, "The same sun that melts wax will harden clay." In other words, the same gospel that will open some people's hearts will shut the hearts of others because they refuse to accept the truth they're hearing. It's not God's fault that some people persist in keeping their minds and hearts closed to the truth they hear any more than it is the sun's fault for melting wax or hardening clay.

Is it only involving the heart? Is it only a matter of the heart? Surely not. Why? Because Jesus didn't only say "all your heart", he also said, "all your mind".

Our minds cannot grasp the concept of the Trinity. You're bluffing yourself if you say you can. Our minds just won't accept what is illogical.

The world's largest religion understands the concept of the Trinity, and even the ancient religion of Hinduism recognizes a similar idea. This suggests that your understanding of God may be limited.

 As humans, we are comprised of spirit, body, and soul.... removing any of these aspects leaves us incomplete. Similarly, we affirm that God is one, yet consists of three distinct persons functioning as one unified entity.

God does not lie, God is not deceptive, look at the stats, God has made Christianity the largest group, the evidence speaks for itself. It is important to adhere to God's will and recognize that Christianity represents the truth and holds a position of supreme authority over Islam.

If you're looking to challenge the concept of the Holy Trinity, you might consider the compelling evidence provided by the Holy Spirit.... Countless testimonies affirm its truth. All it takes is one real testimony to counter your arguments

what do you have to present? Nothing at all! There are no evidences, no eyewitnesses, no testimonies, and no encounters on your side. It’s a bleak and isolating journey, my Moslem friends. It’s time to awaken and make the right choice

time is fleeting, and it waits for no one.


Saint Augustine of Hippo (354-430): A philosopher and theologian, Augustine emphasized the work of the Holy Spirit in conversion and the understanding of Scripture. His writings, particularly "On the Trinity," explore the nature of God, including the role of the Holy Spirit.

Martin Luther (1483-1546): The initiator of the Protestant Reformation, Luther spoke extensively about the Holy Spirit's role in faith, grace, and the interpretation of Scripture. He believed that the Holy Spirit is essential for understanding and believing in the Gospel.

John Wesley (1703-1791): The founder of Methodism, Wesley had a profound experience of the Holy Spirit's presence and empowerment, which he described during his Aldersgate experience. He emphasized the necessity of the Holy Spirit in the life of the believer and the process of sanctification.

A.W. Tozer (1897-1963): A Christian pastor, author, and theologian, Tozer wrote about the Holy Spirit's work in believers’ lives and the need for a deeper relationship with the Holy Spirit. His writings encourage believers to seek the Holy Spirit for guidance and empowerment.

Billy Graham (1918-2018): An influential evangelist, Graham often spoke about the role of the Holy Spirit in conviction of sin, conversion, and the Christian life. He emphasized that without the work of the Holy Spirit, one cannot truly come to faith in Jesus.

Mother Teresa (1910-1997): Known for her humanitarian work and deep faith, Mother Teresa attributed her work and dedication to the call of the Holy Spirit, believing that she was guided and strengthened by the Spirit in her service to others.

Pope John Paul II (1920-2005): This influential pope often spoke of the Holy Spirit's role in the Church and in personal faith, emphasizing the need for the Holy Spirit to guide the Church in its mission and the lives of believers.

Last nite dreamt the earth tremors
Buildings shaken

Prepare prepare !

(23-03-2025, 10:52 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]If you're looking to challenge the concept of the Holy Trinity, you might consider the compelling evidence provided by the Holy Spirit.... Countless testimonies affirm its truth. All it takes is one real testimony to counter your arguments

what do you have to present? Nothing at all! There are no evidences, no eyewitnesses, no testimonies, and no encounters on your side. It’s a bleak and isolating journey, my Moslem friends. It’s time to awaken and make the right choice

time is fleeting, and it waits for no one.


Saint Augustine of Hippo (354-430): A philosopher and theologian, Augustine emphasized the work of the Holy Spirit in conversion and the understanding of Scripture. His writings, particularly "On the Trinity," explore the nature of God, including the role of the Holy Spirit.

Martin Luther (1483-1546): The initiator of the Protestant Reformation, Luther spoke extensively about the Holy Spirit's role in faith, grace, and the interpretation of Scripture. He believed that the Holy Spirit is essential for understanding and believing in the Gospel.

John Wesley (1703-1791): The founder of Methodism, Wesley had a profound experience of the Holy Spirit's presence and empowerment, which he described during his Aldersgate experience. He emphasized the necessity of the Holy Spirit in the life of the believer and the process of sanctification.

A.W. Tozer (1897-1963): A Christian pastor, author, and theologian, Tozer wrote about the Holy Spirit's work in believers’ lives and the need for a deeper relationship with the Holy Spirit. His writings encourage believers to seek the Holy Spirit for guidance and empowerment.

Billy Graham (1918-2018): An influential evangelist, Graham often spoke about the role of the Holy Spirit in conviction of sin, conversion, and the Christian life. He emphasized that without the work of the Holy Spirit, one cannot truly come to faith in Jesus.

Mother Teresa (1910-1997): Known for her humanitarian work and deep faith, Mother Teresa attributed her work and dedication to the call of the Holy Spirit, believing that she was guided and strengthened by the Spirit in her service to others.

Pope John Paul II (1920-2005): This influential pope often spoke of the Holy Spirit's role in the Church and in personal faith, emphasizing the need for the Holy Spirit to guide the Church in its mission and the lives of believers.

His is 2 in 1 lost lah

(22-03-2025, 05:26 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ] I dare not say anything anymore lah!

Relax breathe in and out