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(14-03-2025, 06:41 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]He was banned by Republic of Singapore.

Go and check with ICA , if you are allowed to disseminate his videos here.

He is not an Islamic scholar. He is a self claimed scholar of Islamic eschatology.

He is truthful and I agree with his statement..if you disagree with him then you have attributed injustice to Allah...

(14-03-2025, 06:41 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]He was banned by Republic of Singapore.

Go and check with ICA , if you are allowed to disseminate his videos here.

He is not an Islamic scholar. He is a self claimed scholar of Islamic eschatology.

Who says this forum is hosted in Singapore?

(14-03-2025, 07:23 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Welcome back, bro! The additional fire power will hopefully guide them back to the truth of the Lord....

SIMTAN is highly respected here lah!

(14-03-2025, 02:33 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Your buddy seemed to be threading on dangerous water whenever he interpret a verse lah...you must give him more Bible studies

ALL of us everyone must give an account to the Lord 1 day for every careless word spoken here on earth lah!  That includes you and me lah!

(14-03-2025, 07:18 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]He is truthful and I agree with his statement..if you disagree with him then you have attributed injustice to Allah...

He is a Putin supporter.He is playing to the gallery of orthodox Christian.

He is from Trinidad and Tobago in the Caribbean.

He tried to establish in Singapore and Malaysia.
He doesn’t have much support in Malaysia now.
He is delivering lectures in Uk and the eastern Europe now.


“That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:”Quran 4:157

Every one of the People of the Book will definitely believe in him before his death. And on the Day of Judgment Jesus will be a witness against them.”Quran 4:159

The Messiah, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger. ˹Many˺ messengers had ˹come and˺ gone before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They both ate food. See how We make the signs clear to them, yet see how they are deluded ˹from the truth˺!” Quran 5:75

When the son of Mary was cited as an example ˹in argument˺, your people ˹O Prophet˺ broke into ˹joyful˺ applause

They exclaimed, “Which is better: our gods or Jesus?” They cite him only to argue. In fact, they are a people prone to dispute.

He was only a servant We showed favour to, and made as an example for the Children of Israel.”Quran 43:57-59

Jesus Sentenced to Be Crucified
[size=11]19 Then Pilate took Jesus and had him flogged. 2 The soldiers twisted together a crown of thorns and put it on his head. They clothed him in a purple robe 3 and went up to him again and again, saying, “Hail, king of the Jews!” And they slapped him in the face.[/size]
[size=11]4 Once more Pilate came out and said to the Jews gathered there, “Look, I am bringing him out to you to let you know that I find no basis for a charge against him.” 5 When Jesus came out wearing the crown of thorns and the purple robe,Pilate said to them, “Here is the man!”[/size]
[size=11]6 As soon as the chief priests and their officials saw him, they shouted, “Crucify! Crucify!”[/size]
But Pilate answered, “You take him and crucify him. As for me, I find no basis for a charge against him.”
[size=11]7 The Jewish leaders insisted, “We have a law, and according to that law he must die,because he claimed to be the Son of God.”[/size]
[size=11]8 When Pilate heard this, he was even more afraid, 9 and he went back inside the palace.“Where do you come from?” he asked Jesus, but Jesus gave him no answer. 10 “Do you refuse to speak to me?” Pilate said. “Don’t you realize I have power either to free you or to crucify you?”[/size]
[size=11]11 Jesus answered, “You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin.”[/size]
[size=11]12 From then on, Pilate tried to set Jesus free, but the Jewish leaders kept shouting, “If you let this man go, you are no friend of Caesar. Anyone who claims to be a king opposes Caesar.”[/size]
[size=11]13 When Pilate heard this, he brought Jesus out and sat down on the judge’s seat at a place known as the Stone Pavement (which in Aramaic is Gabbatha). 14 It was the day of Preparation of the Passover; it was about noon.[/size]
“Here is your king,” Pilate said to the Jews.
[size=11]15 But they shouted, “Take him away! Take him away! Crucify him!”[/size]
“Shall I crucify your king?” Pilate asked.
“We have no king but Caesar,” the chief priests answered.
[size=11]16 Finally Pilate handed him over to them to be crucified.[/size]
The Crucifixion of Jesus
So the soldiers took charge of Jesus. [size=11]17 Carrying his own cross, he went out to the place of the Skull (which in Aramaicis called Golgotha). 18 There they crucified him, and with him two others—one on each side and Jesus in the middle.[/size]
[size=11]19 Pilate had a notice prepared and fastened to the cross. It read: jesus of nazareth, the king of the jews. 20 Many of the Jews read this sign, for the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city, and the sign was written in Aramaic, Latin and Greek.21 The chief priests of the Jews protested to Pilate, “Do not write ‘The King of the Jews,’ but that this man claimed to be king of the Jews.”[/size]
[size=11]22 Pilate answered, “What I have written, I have written.”[/size]
[size=11]23 When the soldiers crucified Jesus, they took his clothes, dividing them into four shares, one for each of them, with the undergarment remaining. This garment was seamless, woven in one piece from top to bottom.[/size]
[size=11]24 “Let’s not tear it,” they said to one another. “Let’s decide by lot who will get it.”[/size]
This happened that the scripture might be fulfilled that said,
[size=11]“They divided my clothes among them
    and cast lots for my garment.”[a][/size]
So this is what the soldiers did.
[size=11]25 Near the cross of Jesus stood his mother, his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. 26 When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to her, “Woman,[b] here is your son,” 27 and to the disciple, “Here is your mother.” From that time on, this disciple took her into his home.[/size]
The Death of Jesus
[size=11]28 Later, knowing that everything had now been finished, and so that Scripture would be fulfilled, Jesus said, “I am thirsty.” 29 A jar of wine vinegar was there, so they soaked a sponge in it, put the sponge on a stalk of the hyssop plant, and lifted it to Jesus’ lips. 30 When he had received the drink, Jesus said, “It is finished.” With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.[/size]
[size=11]31 Now it was the day of Preparation, and the next day was to be a special Sabbath. Because the Jewish leaders did not want the bodies left on the crosses during the Sabbath, they asked Pilate to have the legs broken and the bodies taken down. 32 The soldiers therefore came and broke the legs of the first man who had been crucified with Jesus, and then those of the other. 33 But when they came to Jesus and found that he was already dead, they did not break his legs. 34 Instead, one of the soldiers pierced Jesus’ side with a spear, bringing a sudden flow of blood and water. 35 The man who saw ithas given testimony, and his testimony is true. He knows that he tells the truth, and he testifies so that you also may believe. 36 These things happened so that the scripture would be fulfilled: “Not one of his bones will be broken,”[c]37 and, as another scripture says, “They will look on the one they have pierced.”[d][/size]
The Burial of Jesus
38 Later, Joseph of Arimathea asked Pilate for the body of Jesus. Now Joseph was a disciple of Jesus, but secretly because he feared the Jewish leaders. With Pilate’s permission, he came and took the body away. 39 He was accompanied by Nicodemus,the man who earlier had visited Jesus at night. Nicodemus brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds.[e] 40 Taking Jesus’ body, the two of them wrapped it, with the spices, in strips of linen. This was in accordance with Jewish burial customs.41 At the place where Jesus was crucified, there was a garden, and in the garden a new tomb, in which no one had ever been laid. 42 Because it was the Jewish day of Preparation and since the tomb was nearby, they laid Jesus there.

(14-03-2025, 08:28 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]ALL of us everyone must give an account to the Lord 1 day for every careless word spoken here on earth lah!  That includes you and me lah!

Your comment is based on your beliefs.

As per our belief, you will be in the hell for making Jesus a God.It’s not like accountable for your word.


When Jesus came with clear proofs, he declared, “I have come to you with wisdom, and to clarify to you some of what you differ about. So fear Allah, and obey me.

Surely Allah ˹alone˺ is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him ˹alone˺. This is the Straight Path.”Quran 43:63-64


O believers! Stand up for Allah, as Jesus, son of Mary, asked the disciples, “Who will stand up with me for Allah?” The disciples replied, “We will stand up for Allah.” Then a group from the Children of Israel believed while another disbelieved. We then supported the believers against their enemies, so they prevailed.”Quran 61:14

Then in the footsteps of these ˹prophets˺, We sent Our messengers, and ˹after them˺ We sent Jesus, son of Mary, and granted him the Gospel, and instilled compassion and mercy into the hearts of his followers. As for monasticism, they made it up—We never ordained it for them—only seeking to please Allah, yet they did not ˹even˺ observe it strictly. So We rewarded those of them who were faithful. But most of them are rebellious.” Quran 57:27

https://youtube.com/shorts/evcerpQAQcI?s...r3mw5LA9nf
If Islam is true why would Jesus becomes famous .?

(14-03-2025, 08:39 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]When the people asked Jesus how to pray, Jesus taught them to pray directly to the Father, not to him.

So why do you pray to Jesus instead?

Jesus not only asked people to believe in Him and obey His commandments, but He also asked them to pray in His name. "And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do ... If ye ask any thing in my name I will do it" (John 14:13-14). "If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you" (15:7). Jesus even insisted, "No man cometh unto the Father, but by me (14:6).

Now, the sticking point. Since you reject His deity, you must have felt He shouldn't be prayed to and worshipped. I'm afraid you didn't read scriptures in their entirety. In response to the above passages, His disciples not only prayed n Jesus' name (1Cor 5:4), but prayed to Christ (Acts 7:59). Jesus certainly intended that His name be invoked both before God and as God in prayer.

Jesus claimed to be God in several ways. He claimed equality with God in authority, worship, honor and prerogatives. Jesus accepted worship and claimed to be Yahweh of the OT by applying truths about Yahweh to Himself and by claiming to be the promised Messiah. Finally, Jesus claimed to be the only way to approach God in prayer, and requested prayer to Himself as God.

Often, in prayers or benedictions, Jesus's name is used alongside God's, as in "Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ" (Gal 1:3; Eph 1:2). The name of Jesus appears with equal status to God's - for example, the command to go and baptize "in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit" (Matt 28:19). This association is made at the end of 2Cor "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all" (13:14). If there's only one God, then these 3 must be equated.

(14-03-2025, 08:47 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]He wants to know if there are 72 virgins for him in the Christian heaven ..Allah promises him endless videos of Lily Jay in the afterlife..

(14-03-2025, 12:52 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Got 72 v no wonder grows so fast
Hard to convert LTK

We have savior grows fast is logical still no 1 till the rapture of the church

Unlike the God of Islam, the God of the Bible has reached out to us in a special way by sending His Son to earth to die for our sins. Muhammad did nothing to provide a sure hope for salvation, only guidelines for how to work our way into Allah's favor, or a jihad, in which one dies as a martyr to attain 72 virgins. By contrast, Christ died to obtain heaven for us and offers us salvation as a free gift through faith alone and through Christ alone.

(15-03-2025, 01:34 AM)S I M T A N Wrote: [ -> ]Jesus not only asked people to believe in Him and obey His commandments, but He also asked them to pray in His name. "And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do ... If ye ask any thing in my name I will do it" (John 14:13-14). "If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you" (15:7). Jesus even insisted, "No man cometh unto the Father, but by me (14:6).

Praying in my name is not the same as praying to me. Jesus never once taught people to pray to him or to worship him. But clearly, he taught people to pray to the Father directly.

I'm sorry for dismissing your arguments with simple points. I don't obscure what is clear. 

Peace and blessings be upon the Messiah, the son of Mary.

(15-03-2025, 01:34 AM)S I M T A N Wrote: [ -> ]Now, the sticking point. Since you reject His deity, you must have felt He shouldn't be prayed to and worshipped. I'm afraid you didn't read scriptures in their entirety. In response to the above passages, His disciples not only prayed n Jesus' name (1Cor 5:4), but prayed to Christ (Acts 7:59). Jesus certainly intended that His name be invoked both before God and as God in prayer.

Yes, it is clear to me that you pray to Jesus but as I've said, it wasn't Jesus who taught you to do that. When asked how to pray, Jesus taught people to pray directly to the Father. So, showing me what people did in Acts is not the same as showing me Jesus's teachings.

(15-03-2025, 01:34 AM)S I M T A N Wrote: [ -> ]Jesus claimed to be God in several ways. He claimed equality with God in authority, worship, honor and prerogatives. Jesus accepted worship and claimed to be Yahweh of the OT by applying truths about Yahweh to Himself and by claiming to be the promised Messiah. Finally, Jesus claimed to be the only way to approach God in prayer, and requested prayer to Himself as God.

Jesus said the Father is greater than him (John 14:28) and greater than ALL (John 10:29). So there, in at least two places, Jesus said explicitly that he is not equal to God. I can also show you other places where Jesus implicitly said he is subordinate to God, a servant of God.

Jesus also said the authority has been given to him. (Matt 28)

Being the Messiah is not being God. There were other Messiahs before Jesus, like Cyrus. 

If I ask you to show me where Jesus taught people to pray to him, you can only show me some ambiguous verses that could mean more than 1 thing.

(15-03-2025, 01:34 AM)S I M T A N Wrote: [ -> ]Often, in prayers or benedictions, Jesus's name is used alongside God's, as in "Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ" (Gal 1:3; Eph 1:2). The name of Jesus appears with equal status to God's - for example, the command to go and baptize "in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit" (Matt 28:19). This association is made at the end of 2Cor "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all" (13:14). If there's only one God, then these 3 must be equated.

You should not equate other people's words to Jesus's, but even so, St Paul always distinguishes Jesus and God, which simply means Jesus and God are separate.

(14-03-2025, 10:17 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]https://youtube.com/shorts/evcerpQAQcI?s...r3mw5LA9nf
If Islam is true why would Jesus becomes famous .?

He is famous because of the controversies surrounding his birth, teaching,death and divinity,and also the Romans and other colonists spread the message of Paul and other 40 writers beyond the Levant

SimTan. Please tell me if you agree with John 17:3 where Jesus said, explicitly, that the true God is only 1 person.

Please do not give a different meaning to the word "only".

(15-03-2025, 01:40 AM)S I M T A N Wrote: [ -> ]Unlike the God of Islam, the God of the Bible has reached out to us in a special way by sending His Son to earth to die for our sins. Muhammad did nothing to provide a sure hope for salvation, only guidelines for how to work our way into Allah's favor, or a jihad, in which one dies as a martyr to attain 72 virgins. By contrast, Christ died to obtain heaven for us and offers us salvation as a free gift through faith alone and through Christ alone.

Don't just say God of Islam because our God is the same one as the God of Jesus. Our God is the same one as the God of the Israelites. There is only 1 God.

(15-03-2025, 01:40 AM)S I M T A N Wrote: [ -> ]Unlike the God of Islam, the God of the Bible has reached out to us in a special way by sending His Son to earth to die for our sins. Muhammad did nothing to provide a sure hope for salvation, only guidelines for how to work our way into Allah's favor, or a jihad, in which one dies as a martyr to attain 72 virgins. By contrast, Christ died to obtain heaven for us and offers us salvation as a free gift through faith alone and through Christ alone.

You have admitted knowing almost nothing about Islam or our prophet. So why do you make statements about our prophet and our faith as though you know?

(15-03-2025, 01:40 AM)S I M T A N Wrote: [ -> ]Unlike the God of Islam, the God of the Bible has reached out to us in a special way by sending His Son to earth to die for our sins. Muhammad did nothing to provide a sure hope for salvation, only guidelines for how to work our way into Allah's favor, or a jihad, in which one dies as a martyr to attain 72 virgins. By contrast, Christ died to obtain heaven for us and offers us salvation as a free gift through faith alone and through Christ alone.

Why so cruel? One can equate that to child abuse.

In any justice system, sending an innocent man to die for the wrongdoings of others is an injustice.

Why is it okay in Christianity?

(15-03-2025, 01:40 AM)S I M T A N Wrote: [ -> ]Unlike the God of Islam, the God of the Bible has reached out to us in a special way by sending His Son to earth to die for our sins. Muhammad did nothing to provide a sure hope for salvation, only guidelines for how to work our way into Allah's favor, or a jihad, in which one dies as a martyr to attain 72 virgins. By contrast, Christ died to obtain heaven for us and offers us salvation as a free gift through faith alone and through Christ alone.

In the history of Israelites , From Abraham to Jacob, Jacob to Jesus,How many messengers have come to them?As per bible more than 80.
Didn’t all of them teach salvation?why wait until Jesus to die ?why do you question only on Muhammad teaching ?

Muhammad can’t promise any salvation, Only Allah who created the humanity can give the salvation.

Allah who created the humanity has promised salvation in his Quran.
Allah who created this universe has taken oath on all of his mighty creations that his message is true .Allah has taken oath on himself at least seven times.

Is there any oath from 40 plus bible authors confirming that their promise is true?


“To Allah ˹alone˺ belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Indeed, We have commanded those given the Scripture before you, as well as you, to be mindful of Allah. But if you disobey, then ˹know that˺ to Allah belongs whatever is in the heavens and the earth. And Allah is Self-Sufficient, Praiseworthy.”Quran 4:131

(15-03-2025, 01:40 AM)S I M T A N Wrote: [ -> ]Unlike the God of Islam, the God of the Bible has reached out to us in a special way by sending His Son to earth to die for our sins. Muhammad did nothing to provide a sure hope for salvation, only guidelines for how to work our way into Allah's favor, or a jihad, in which one dies as a martyr to attain 72 virgins. By contrast, Christ died to obtain heaven for us and offers us salvation as a free gift through faith alone and through Christ alone.

Yes 

And 
Matthew 18:2-5: "He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. And he said: 'Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.'"
https://youtube.com/shorts/kQa8bzYIjXk?s...z7MdxxoDQe

(14-03-2025, 08:25 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]SIMTAN is highly respected here lah!

You are also highly respected here lah

(14-03-2025, 08:55 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]He is a Putin supporter.He is playing to the gallery of orthodox Christian.

He is from Trinidad and Tobago in the Caribbean.

He tried to establish in Singapore and Malaysia.
He doesn’t have much support in Malaysia now.
He is delivering lectures in Uk and the eastern Europe now.


“That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:”Quran 4:157

Every one of the People of the Book will definitely believe in him before his death. And on the Day of Judgment Jesus will be a witness against them.”Quran 4:159

The Messiah, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger. ˹Many˺ messengers had ˹come and˺ gone before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They both ate food. See how We make the signs clear to them, yet see how they are deluded ˹from the truth˺!” Quran 5:75

When the son of Mary was cited as an example ˹in argument˺, your people ˹O Prophet˺ broke into ˹joyful˺ applause

They exclaimed, “Which is better: our gods or Jesus?” They cite him only to argue. In fact, they are a people prone to dispute.

He was only a servant We showed favour to, and made as an example for the Children of Israel.”Quran 43:57-59

Islam doesnt allow anyone to speaks freely..why is this fellow still alive unless he is speaking of the truth.