25-12-2024, 07:01 PM
(25-12-2024, 03:34 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]He was nailed by Roman soldiers.
He didn’t shed blood for your sins .
Did the Quran say that Jesus was nailed by the Roman soldiers?
The Quran does not have the complete details.
(25-12-2024, 03:34 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]He was nailed by Roman soldiers.
He didn’t shed blood for your sins .
(25-12-2024, 06:42 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]The Spirit of Truth is with me and you are receiving the good news from me..
(25-12-2024, 06:45 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Muhammad affirmed what the Jews and Christians have during his time....and these scriptures are the same up to this day...
(25-12-2024, 06:54 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]All Muslim go to paradise eventually according to Muhammad..
There will be none in hell according to the hadiths
(25-12-2024, 07:01 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Did the Quran say that Jesus was nailed by the Roman soldiers?
The Quran does not have the complete details.
(25-12-2024, 08:07 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Prophet Muhammad never confirmed.
Quran was revealed during prophet Muhammad time, which say previous scriptures have been altered.
(25-12-2024, 08:12 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]As per your belief, Jesus was crucified.
Quran reject the cruxifiction , death and resurrection.
(25-12-2024, 08:09 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Not every one.
People who do Major sin will go to hell.
(25-12-2024, 08:04 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Where is the holy sprit then?
(25-12-2024, 10:16 AM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]When you redeem something like gold ring from the pawn shop you buy back lah!So redemption is God's plan for mankind to buy us back from Satan lah!
(26-12-2024, 12:30 AM)S I M T A N Wrote: [ -> ]Bro, I like your explanation of God buying us back from Satan by analogy with redeeming something valuable from the pawnbroker. I'd like to make another analogy with regard to the redemption of sinners.
Jesus described His death as a ransom, which is referred to the price paid to purchase a slave. In the olden days, someone needing a slave would travel to the marketplace to view a variety of men, women, and children in chains on the auction block. He could 'redeem' the slave by offering the required 'ransom' and take the slave out of the marketplace.
Each and every one of us is born as a slave to sin and death, and Satan is our slave master. The 'wages' he offers for our servitude to him are misery and death. Through Christ's sacrificial death on the cross, however, He has paid the necessary ransom to redeem us from our slavery to Satan and has freed us to serve God and enjoy the wages He offers, which is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. The wages of sin is eternal death (Rom 6:23).
This illustrates the extent of the sacrifice Christ made to pay this ransom. The only reason Christ was willing to offer this ultimate sacrifice was because it was the only way to bridge the great gulf between God and man. "God and sinners reconciled," as the Christmas carol heralds.
(25-12-2024, 08:04 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Where is the holy sprit then?
(25-12-2024, 09:36 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]The Holy Spirit indwelling man's spirit is a very important thing. If a believer does not know that the dwelling place of the Holy Spirit is in the deepest part of his whole being, which is deeper than his mind, emotion, and will, he will surely seek the guidance of the Holy Spirit in his mind, emotion, and will.
(25-12-2024, 08:09 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Not every one.
People who do Major sin will go to hell.
(25-12-2024, 08:12 PM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]As per your belief, Jesus was crucified.
Quran reject the cruxifiction , death and resurrection.
(25-12-2024, 09:36 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]The Holy Spirit indwelling man's spirit is a very important thing. If a believer does not know that the dwelling place of the Holy Spirit is in the deepest part of his whole being, which is deeper than his mind, emotion, and will, he will surely seek the guidance of the Holy Spirit in his mind, emotion, and will.
(26-12-2024, 07:26 AM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]What exactly holy sprit in Christianity?What is his roles?
In Islam, Holy sprit is Angel Gabriel.His role is communicating between Allah and messengers.
(26-12-2024, 07:26 AM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]What exactly holy sprit in Christianity?What is his roles?
In Islam, Holy sprit is Angel Gabriel.His role is communicating between Allah and messengers.
(25-12-2024, 05:00 PM)Sticw Wrote: [ -> ]Forgive him, he did not first seek wisdom from God but just following the rituals.
In their teaching, they perform sacrifice to cover yearly sin just like the Jews did. They also give out the animal to the poor as a charity and only consume max of one third of the animal. They are also not allowed to consume the animal if they felt or said they felt sorry for the animal for that undo the covering of sin for them.
Before when I was a free thinker, I never understood how can one pay debt or interest by sacrificing something that belongs to the creator of all things.
Therefore, I leave them alone instead of convincing them. They can be rather sensitive, ie cannot say anything bad about them but must accept their badmouthing of others' religion and faith.
Shalom.
(25-12-2024, 06:24 PM)cheekopekman Wrote: [ -> ]Jesus said that those who didn't see and yet believed were more blessed than those who did lah!I believe with no question lah!
(26-12-2024, 12:30 AM)S I M T A N Wrote: [ -> ]Bro, I like your explanation of God buying us back from Satan by analogy with redeeming something valuable from the pawnbroker. I'd like to make another analogy with regard to the redemption of sinners.
Jesus described His death as a ransom, which is referred to the price paid to purchase a slave. In the olden days, someone needing a slave would travel to the marketplace to view a variety of men, women, and children in chains on the auction block. He could 'redeem' the slave by offering the required 'ransom' and take the slave out of the marketplace.
Each and every one of us is born as a slave to sin and death, and Satan is our slave master. The 'wages' he offers for our servitude to him are misery and death. Through Christ's sacrificial death on the cross, however, He has paid the necessary ransom to redeem us from our slavery to Satan and has freed us to serve God and enjoy the wages He offers, which is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. The wages of sin is eternal death (Rom 6:23).
This illustrates the extent of the sacrifice Christ made to pay this ransom. The only reason Christ was willing to offer this ultimate sacrifice was because it was the only way to bridge the great gulf between God and man. "God and sinners reconciled," as the Christmas carol heralds.
(25-12-2024, 10:06 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Thank you for your honesty because your Quran did not mention the prophecy of prophet Isaiah at all.....
Muslims have been going to the Bible to look for evidences to justify Muhammad especially from the verses of Isaiah... because in your Quran Jesus said
And ˹remember˺ when Jesus, son of Mary, said, “O children of Israel! I am truly Allah’s messenger to you, confirming the Torah which came before me, and giving good news of a messenger after me whose name will be Aḥmad.”1 Yet when the Prophet came to them with clear proofs, they said, “This is pure magic.”
(25-12-2024, 10:14 AM)Sticw Wrote: [ -> ]You can continue your fallacy, chances are you belong to the a third who will call out his name but he does not know you.
I am in this world but not of this world already. Not by my action but by redemption through He who was born, died and raised.
In case you think and feel that you are suffering in this world. I was born poor but God has given me much and I am grateful. From rental flat to private housing. From negative bank balance to more than half million in investments excluding other assets. God provides everything and all He wanted is reciprocating of His Grace through Jesus Christ. Amen.
(26-12-2024, 09:33 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Hello and merry Christmas.
That is like God taking money from his own pocket and using it to pay himself. Does that make sense to you?
And how does God make a sacrifice when everything belongs to him?
(26-12-2024, 10:03 AM)Tee tiong huat Wrote: [ -> ]Be grateful...morning to all forumers.
(26-12-2024, 10:10 AM)Sticw Wrote: [ -> ]And so sacrificing goats and cows can offset sins on yearly basis? Also doesn't make sense in what is your faith or religion then...
The difference is that goats and cows are creation of God, Jesus is bloodline of David but was born of virgin Mary. Jesus is God in person who doesn't just write off sins but paid up for it.
(26-12-2024, 10:10 AM)Tee tiong huat Wrote: [ -> ]Problems: "Facing it is an art for LIfe"
(26-12-2024, 09:19 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]That is a good question. I must admit that I'm not entirely familiar with His roles, and this is an excellent opportunity for us to learn more when such questions are raised....
In Greek, the word for angel means messenger. The Quran does not clarify the role of the Holy Spirit...it simply refers to it as a title associated with the angel Gabriel...
(26-12-2024, 09:24 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]I will give you a detailed cut and paste answerThanks to you, I am gaining more knowledge and understanding..
The Holy Spirit is often described as the active presence of God in the world and in the lives of believers. In the Christian tradition, the Holy Spirit is associated with various roles and functions, including:
Comforter/Advocate/Helper: The Holy Spirit is seen as a source of comfort and assistance to believers. In times of trouble or need, the Holy Spirit is believed to come alongside believers to provide guidance, strength, and support.
Teacher/Guide: The Holy Spirit is believed to teach and guide believers in understanding and living out the teachings of Jesus Christ. This includes helping believers interpret and apply the Scriptures to their lives.
Conviction of Sin: The Holy Spirit is often seen as convicting individuals of their sinfulness, leading them to repentance and a turning towards God.
10 Roles of the Holy Spirit in Our Lives
The following are ten ways the Holy Spirit continues to work in the lives of believers:
1. The Holy Spirit is a Helper Who Teaches and Reminds
In John 14:26, Jesus told his disciples, “the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you” (John 14:26, ESV).
The Greek word “Parakletos” in this passage is translated as “Helper” in the ESV, “Advocate” in the NIV, and “Counselor” in the KJV. The meaning of this word relates to “legal counsel.”
The Holy Spirit provides wise counsel to Christ’s followers. Jesus knew he would be going away and that his followers would need the Holy Spirit as a helper and an advocate to remind them of his teachings.
2. He Convicts the World of Sin
In addition to providing wise counsel, attorneys also provide evidence used to convict criminals. In a similar fashion, the Holy Spirit will prove the sin, righteousness, and judgment of the world.
“Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment” (John 16:7-8, ESV).
3. The Holy Spirit Dwells in Believers and Fills Us
The Holy Spirit is God’s presence in the lives of believers.
“Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you?” (1 Corinthians 3:16, ESV)
4. He is a Source of Revelation, Wisdom, and Power
“These are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. For who knows a person’s thoughts except for their own spirit within them? In the same way, no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God” (1 Corinthians 2:10-11).
God gives His followers the Holy Spirit, so we may know Him better. Since the Holy Spirit is God’s Spirit, it knows the thoughts of God and reveals those thoughts to believers. The Holy Spirit opens believers’ eyes to the hope of salvation and their inheritance in Christ.
Jesus knew that his disciples would need the power to carry out their mission to be witnesses to the entire world.
Jesus told his disciples, “But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.” (Acts 1:8)
Christians have access to power, revelation, and wisdom from the Holy Spirit, just as the Apostle Paul wrote to believers in Ephesus,
“I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in his holy people, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is the same as the mighty strength he exerted when he raised Christ from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms” (Ephesians 1:17-20).
5. He Guides to All Truth and Knowledge of What Is to Come
The Holy Spirit tells what is yet to come. The Holy Spirit is called the “Spirit of Truth” in John 16:13 because he guides believers into all truth. Jesus told his disciples the Holy Spirit would make known what he hears and would only speak what the Father speaks.
“But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you. All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you” (John 16:13-15).
6. The Holy Spirit Gives Spiritual Gifts to Believers
Attributes of the Holy Spirit, such as wisdom, knowledge, and power, are manifested in the lives of believers for the good of others. More gifts are listed in 1 Corinthians 12:7-11.
7. He is a Seal in the Lives of Believers
In ancient times, a seal was a “legal signature” attesting ownership and validating what was sealed.
The Holy Spirit is our mark of adoption as God’s children. Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to his followers so that they could be confident in their salvation.
Just as you might make a deposit or a down payment on a new car to make sure the salesperson doesn’t sell it to anyone else, the Holy Spirit is a deposit in our lives confirming the validity of Christ’s message and that we belong to Christ.
“And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory” (Ephesians 1:13).
8. He Helps in Our Weakness and Intercedes for Us
We all have times when we feel weak and don’t know what to do. The Holy Spirit helps us align with God’s will by interceding for us during those times.
“In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans. And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit because the Spirit intercedes for God’s people in accordance with the will of God” (Romans 8:26-27).
9. He Makes Believers New and Grants Us Eternal Life
The Holy Spirit works in the lives of believers to renew, sanctify, and make us holy. Just as the Holy Spirit raised Christ from the dead, the Holy Spirit will give eternal life to believers in Christ.
“But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness. And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you” (Romans 8:10-11).
10. The Holy Spirit Sanctifies and Enables Good Fruit in Our Lives
The work of the Holy Spirit in a Christian’s life is an ongoing process of becoming holy through sanctification. Through the conviction and power of the Holy Spirit, believers will not indulge the sinful acts of the flesh (Galatians 5:16-21) but will bear the good fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-25).