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Only Moslem believe Jesus didn’t die or is God
They are blinded by their religion
U can’t force us to believe u
U are just a dust
(10-05-2025, 08:51 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Only Moslem believe Jesus didn’t die or is God
They are blinded by their religion
U can’t force us to believe u
U are just a dust

Islam and Christianity both agree that Jesus's human body is in heaven..Bible says He is seated at the right hand of God..Quran didnt explain further...

I believed Muhammad cụt short the events leading to the death and ressurection of Jesus just like how he left out the 10th plague and passover ritual
(10-05-2025, 09:06 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Islam and Christianity both agree that Jesus's human body is in heaven..Bible says He is seated at the right hand of God..Quran didnt explain further...

I believed Muhammad cụt short the events leading to the death and ressurection of Jesus just like how he left out the 10th plague and passover ritual
The first Quran written 2 years later after muh’s death n was destroyed and rewrote
There is one Hadith that puts Muhammad on the good side..Humour and Humanity.. Big Grin


https://youtube.com/shorts/jeGuvFttzcg?s...PK_w93X4Av
(10-05-2025, 09:09 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]The first Quran written 2 years later after muh’s death n was destroyed and rewrote

Then it means it is not original... Big Grin
(10-05-2025, 09:18 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Then it means it is not original... Big Grin

No wonder that hope no more posts to share
Can get curse if preach wrong
(10-05-2025, 09:23 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]No wonder that hope no more posts to share
Can get curse if preach wrong

Today is good win for us Big Grin
(10-05-2025, 09:25 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Today is good win for us Big Grin

Yap hallelujah!
(10-05-2025, 08:51 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Only Moslem believe Jesus didn’t die or is God
They are blinded by their religion
U can’t force us to believe u
U are just a dust

There were people who didn't believe Jesus was killed, like the Basilideans. 

How do we know about them? Because the early church fathers wrote about them in their arguments against them.

See? You don't even know that simple historical fact about early Christianity. I suggest you read up more.
Who is the supreme God of the Basilidians?
Collin de Plancy's Infernal Dictionary, Abraxas (or Abracax) is labeled the "supreme God" of the Basilidians, whom he describes as "heretics of the second century". He further indicated the Basilidians attributed to Abraxas the rule over "365 skies" and "365 virtues".

Different belief n God of course lah
(10-05-2025, 09:44 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Who is the supreme God of the Basilidians?
Collin de Plancy's Infernal Dictionary, Abraxas (or Abracax) is labeled the "supreme God" of the Basilidians, whom he describes as "heretics of the second century". He further indicated the Basilidians attributed to Abraxas the rule over "365 skies" and "365 virtues".

Different belief n God of course lah

Awesome. At least, you gained some knowledge. 

Next time, don't make comments without knowledge.
Any how use different belief to con us it’s not knowledge
It’s a trap!
(10-05-2025, 09:09 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]The first Quran written 2 years later after muh’s death n was destroyed and rewrote

Again, making comments without knowledge.

The Quran, as the name suggests, is recited. There is no such thing as the first Quran.
The moslem is a joker Rotfl

According to Basilides, since Christ was a divine being, he had all sorts of divine powers. And he used them when it came time for him to be crucified. What he did was pull an identity switch. He transformed Simon of Cyrene, who was carrying his cross, to make him look like him, Jesus, and he transformed himself, Jesus, into the appearance of Simon of Cyrene. And so, when they arrived at the place of crucifixion, the Romans crucified the wrong man. And Jesus stood beside the cross laughing.

Presumably Simon didn’t think it was so funny
(10-05-2025, 09:54 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Any how use different belief to con us it’s not knowledge
It’s a trap!

You made a comment saying Muslims are the only people who don't believe Jesus died on the cross. You are wrong.
They didn’t condemn our belief here u r the only one
U didn’t see I never add s to moslem?
So me not wrong.
If genuine why thousands of Koran being destroyed ?
(10-05-2025, 09:55 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]The moslem is a joker Rotfl

According to Basilides, since Christ was a divine being, he had all sorts of divine powers. And he used them when it came time for him to be crucified. What he did was pull an identity switch. He transformed Simon of Cyrene, who was carrying his cross, to make him look like him, Jesus, and he transformed himself, Jesus, into the appearance of Simon of Cyrene. And so, when they arrived at the place of crucifixion, the Romans crucified the wrong man. And Jesus stood beside the cross laughing.

Presumably Simon didn’t think it was so funny

To further add, I died out laughing while I read what was written...why did that moslem bring out the Basilideans?  Rotfl
(10-05-2025, 10:07 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]If genuine why thousands of Koran being destroyed ?

I am aware of one case where the printing company made a mistake after printing the Quran. It was a simple typo mistake but a mistake nonetheless. So, they were all destroyed.
How come have different korans?
https://youtu.be/oalOCAjCHiI?si=VkSQMea1MGxjlHrP
A very good laugh...the Basilideans Rotfl
That moslem shares the same humour as his prophet Big Grin

What a night...the Basilideans Rotfl
(10-05-2025, 10:49 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Jesus is God

https://youtu.be/dXxVS2B96Ns?si=EofWtuL_rawkZMzI

If you have 1 God in heaven, and 1 God on earth, that means you have 2 Gods. Tio boh?
(10-05-2025, 10:23 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]How come have different korans?
https://youtu.be/oalOCAjCHiI?si=VkSQMea1MGxjlHrP

There is only 1 Quran. 

If you want to know more, please ask. I am happy to tell you more about the glorious Quran. All Muslims believe the Quran is 100% the word of God.
I have a body, spirit and soul...all these make me one..God created Man in His image! Does a tree have a body, spirit and soul?... Maybe! According to Muhammad, the trees can communicate with the moslems if they spot any jews Rotfl

come on, you have a clear mind right?
The Quran is uncreated and on judgement day it will develop a conscious and intercede for all believers...

you also have Allah who is uncreated....this means that there are 2 eternal entities...therefore Tawhid destroyed
Muslims argue that the Quran Is part of Allah as It Is his uncreated speech

Well, since according to them It Is not separate from Allah, then we got way more than Just 2 eternal entities

Sahih Muslim 1874

Abu Umama said he heard Allah's Messenger ( ‌صلی ‌اللہ ‌علیہ ‌وسلم ‌ ) say: Recite the Qur'an, for on the Day of Resurrection it will come as an intercessor for those who recite It. Recite the two bright ones, al-Baqara and Surah Al 'Imran, for on the Day of Resurrection they will come as two clouds or two shades, or two flocks of birds in ranks, pleading for those who recite them. Recite Surah al-Baqara, for to take recourse to it is a blessing and to give it up is a cause of grief, and the magicians cannot confront it. (Mu'awiya said: It has been conveyed to me that here Batala means magicians.)

So, Surah 2 and 3 are personal agents that intercede for the Muslims, pleasinf with Allah

This means that all the 114 Surahs has possible personal agency

Which makes things worse for tawhid as the Quran Will still appear as a pale man

This Is from Sunan Ibn Majah 3781

"The Quran will come on the Day of Resurrection, like a pale man, and will say: 'I am the one that kept you awake at night and made you thirsty during the day."

So, this means that Allah Is the God called Allah, then there are spirits from himself

Then there Is his Word as the uncreated Quran that Is 1 yet 114 at the Same time with the Quran being a personal agent and the Surahs being different personal agents

All that argue with One another as the Surahs Will interact and argue with Allah on behalf of Believers

So the whole tawhid, God Is 
One etc.. Is Just false
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