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(29-05-2025, 03:36 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Christianity is about relationships with God
Not a religion about what u read meditate fast pray..
u feel he is around
If u feel nothing prostrate ten times a day pray got use?

Did Jesus practice a religion? 

Yes, he did. He will get up at dawn and do solah, like me.

Mark chapter 1.
(29-05-2025, 03:30 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]It's not just one man.  I only highlight him because he was an intellectual.

We do not know the number of early followers of Jesus who rejected the Trinity. They were persecuted for rejecting the Trinity.

Today, the numbers are growing again.

It's not just one man.  I only highlight him among many others

We do not know the number of followers of Muhammad who rejected Islam. They were persecuted for rejecting Tawhid.

Today, many countries introduce the death penalty and the numbers are growing again.
(29-05-2025, 03:44 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Did Jesus practice a religion? 

Yes, he did. He will get up at dawn and do solah, like me.

Mark chapter 1.

Jesus prayed towards Jerusalem, you pray towards Mecca...even the directions are wrong, he definitely isnt practising Islam
(29-05-2025, 03:42 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Some Muslims can see God and prostrate before Him.

As for me, I believe God can see me and I prostrate before Him.

Why do you think it is God and not angel Gabriel or another entity?
(29-05-2025, 03:44 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Did Jesus practice a religion? 

Yes, he did. He will get up at dawn and do solah, like me.

Mark chapter 1.
But yours is praying to your added muh
not the Father 
Your god is not the father
(29-05-2025, 03:37 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]If only 1 uninformed or unlearned person says it, we can dismiss it, like what Pink is doing now.

Big Grin

I will flip it back to you Big Grin..the same can be said about You lah
(29-05-2025, 03:42 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Some Muslims can see God and prostrate before Him.

As for me, I believe God can see me and I prostrate before Him.
How they know it’s God?
prostrate n your mouth always offend people got use?
(29-05-2025, 03:52 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]I will flip it back to you Big Grin..the same can be said about You lah

It is not only I who argues against the Trinity. There are probably a million of Unitarians today.

When I say the NT is corrupted, it is not my own findings. The findings came from top NT scholars with no bias. 

When you say we are associating partners with Allah when we say the Shahadah, it is, at best, a handful of uninformed people with bias.

So no, you cannot flip that back at me.
(29-05-2025, 03:59 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]It is not only I who argues against the Trinity. There are probably a million of Unitarians today.

When I say the NT is corrupted, it is not my own findings. The findings came from top NT scholars with no bias. 

When you say we are associating partners with Allah when we say the Shahadah, it is, at best, a handful of uninformed people with bias.

So no, you cannot flip that back at me.
Father Son and Holy Spirit are together in the bible from the beginning 
before the world was created 
It’s not trinity it’s what?
(29-05-2025, 03:56 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]How they know it’s God?
prostrate n your mouth always offend people got use?

My intention is not to offend. I strongly believe you're misled. And I don't just say you're misled, I give plenty of reasons why I believe you're misled.

When I say "see God", I don't mean it is with the naked eye. I'm sorry for not making that clear to you.

Let me tell you one thing that you have never heard me say before today. Even if you don't believe in Islam, it is still good to be a follower of Islam because Islam teaches you all the good things in this life. 

For example, if you're a mother of a Muslim son, your well-being is his number 1 priority. Let's discuss that coz I think you're a woman.
(29-05-2025, 04:08 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]My intention is not to offend. I strongly believe you're misled. And I don't just say you're misled, I give plenty of reasons why I believe you're misled.

When I say "see God", I don't mean it is with the naked eye. I'm sorry for not making that clear to you.

Let me tell you one thing that you have never heard me say before today. Even if you don't believe in Islam, it is still good to be a follower of Islam because Islam teaches you all the good things in this life. 

For example, if you're a mother of a Muslim son, your well-being is his number 1 priority. Let's discuss that coz I think you're a woman.

Islam teach u what good things give examples ..
nobody can convert me into Islam I m not stupid ..lol
After reading all those hilarious Hadith here u want me convert into Islam and bow down to muh
Out your mind !
(29-05-2025, 03:59 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]It is not only I who argues against the Trinity. There are probably a million of Unitarians today.

When I say the NT is corrupted, it is not my own findings. The findings came from top NT scholars with no bias. 

When you say we are associating partners with Allah when we say the Shahadah, it is, at best, a handful of uninformed people with bias.

So no, you cannot flip that back at me.

What sort of corruption are you referring to? Are the texts being altered to suggest a different meaning? I have provided you with a list of scholars and historians who confirm the reliability of the New Testament, yet you chose to endorse only a deceased individual and his mentee as your representatives. 

Additionally, it is correct that the shahada involves associating partners with Allah, since no genuine religion would formulate a declaration about God that includes a human being.
(29-05-2025, 04:20 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]After reading all those hilarious Hadith here u want me convert  into Islam and bow down to muh
Out your mind !

He is lucky that I haven't get started on the Hadiths... Big Grin
(29-05-2025, 04:21 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]He is lucky that I haven't get started on the Hadiths... Big Grin
ya loh 
Later he will call u a liar again lol
(29-05-2025, 04:08 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]My intention is not to offend. I strongly believe you're misled. And I don't just say you're misled, I give plenty of reasons why I believe you're misled.

When I say "see God", I don't mean it is with the naked eye. I'm sorry for not making that clear to you.

Let me tell you one thing that you have never heard me say before today. Even if you don't believe in Islam, it is still good to be a follower of Islam because Islam teaches you all the good things in this life. 

For example, if you're a mother of a Muslim son, your well-being is his number 1 priority. Let's discuss that coz I think you're a woman.

My intention is not to offend. I strongly believe you're misled. And I don't just say you're misled, I give plenty of reasons why I believe you're misled.

Let me tell you one thing that you have never heard me say before today. Even if you don't believe in Christianity, it is still good to be a follower of Christianity because Christianity teaches you all the good things in this life. 

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(29-05-2025, 04:23 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]ya loh 
Later he will call u a liar again lol

Rotfl
(29-05-2025, 04:11 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Islam teach u what good things give examples ..
nobody can convert me into Islam I m not stupid ..lol

Again, I will tell you.

If you're a mother, you should want your son to be a Muslim. I gave you the reason earlier. I am a son and I know how I treat my mother. You always talk about testimonies, and now, for the first time, I will give you my testimony as a Muslim. I will tell you how I took care of my aged mother. She passed away in Sept last year. You want to hear testimonies from Muslims, right? She was my number 1 priority, above my wife. My mother suffered from Alzheimer's disease and towards the last year of her life, it got worst. She would ask me a question, and after 5 minutes, she asked the same question. My sisters all couldn't take it because it was irritating. As for me, I will keep answering her gently over and over again. "Anak Zed enam mak", to her question "Anak kau berapa?".

If I make my mother angry, God will be angry at me and I don't want God to be angry at me.

That is my testimony. It is not a feeling or a dream. It is real.
(29-05-2025, 04:25 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]My intention is not to offend. I strongly believe you're misled. And I don't just say you're misled, I give plenty of reasons why I believe you're misled.

Let me tell you one thing that you have never heard me say before today. Even if you don't believe in Christianity, it is still good to be a follower of Christianity because Christianity teaches you all the good things in this life. 

.

Christianity doesn't forbid drinking alcohol and drinking alcohol is not good for you, or the society.
(29-05-2025, 04:33 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Again, I will tell you.

If you're a mother, you should want your son to be a Muslim. I gave you the reason earlier. I am a son and I know how I treat my mother. You always talk about testimonies, and now, for the first time, I will give you my testimony as a Muslim. I will tell you how I took care of my aged mother. She passed away in Sept last year. You want to hear testimonies from Muslims, right? She was my number 1 priority, above my wife. My mother suffered from Alzheimer's disease and towards the last year of her life, it got worst. She would ask me a question, and after 5 minutes, she asked the same question. My sisters all couldn't take it because it was irritating. As for me, I will keep answering her gently over and over again. "Anak Zed enam mak", to her question "Anak kau berapa?".

If I make my mother angry, God will be angry at me and I don't want God to be angry at me.

That is my testimony. It is not a feeling or a dream. It is real.
Christians also took good care of their parents lah
Need to be moslem meh
How come so many drug addicts are moslems?
Why war in Gaza never ends n people suffering ..where is your god ?
(29-05-2025, 04:44 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Christians also took good care of their parents lah
Need to be moslem meh
How come so many drug addicts are moslems?

Yes, the teaching of Jesus about "honor your parents" is clear. If you curse your parents, it is a major sin. The punishment for making your parents angry is "put to death" which means a major sin to say the least.

But do Christians take that seriously? Do they fear God if their parents are angry at them? Do you? Please don't answer. Just give it a thought.
(29-05-2025, 04:44 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]How come so many drug addicts are moslems?

If Muslims don't want to follow the teachings of Islam, they are to be blamed, and their lives will not be good. Drug addicts have horrible lives.
(29-05-2025, 04:44 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Why war in Gaza never ends n people suffering ..where is your god ?

Because the Zionists are hell-bent on making them suffer in the hope that they will leave.

When the early followers of Jesus were thrown into the arena with lions, they too suffered tremendously, being eaten alive by lions. Are you gonna ask the same question about the whereabout of God then?
(29-05-2025, 04:33 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Again, I will tell you.

If you're a mother, you should want your son to be a Muslim. I gave you the reason earlier. I am a son and I know how I treat my mother. You always talk about testimonies, and now, for the first time, I will give you my testimony as a Muslim. I will tell you how I took care of my aged mother. She passed away in Sept last year. You want to hear testimonies from Muslims, right? She was my number 1 priority, above my wife. My mother suffered from Alzheimer's disease and towards the last year of her life, it got worst. She would ask me a question, and after 5 minutes, she asked the same question. My sisters all couldn't take it because it was irritating. As for me, I will keep answering her gently over and over again. "Anak Zed enam mak", to her question "Anak kau berapa?".

If I make my mother angry, God will be angry at me and I don't want God to be angry at me.

That is my testimony. It is not a feeling or a dream. It is real.

It reminds me of a local movie..I'm not making fun .but it does get frustrating...so do you inherit it because you keep repeating some questions all the time. 

(29-05-2025, 04:55 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]so do you inherit it because you keep repeating some questions all the time. 

The questions are meant to make you think. So yes, I will repeat them when the opportunity arises. 

Alzheimer is genetic so yes, I fear I will get it too. I am a programmer and at 60+, I am still actively doing coding all the time, and that, according to some, is one way to prevent Alzheimer. But I don't know, and I submit to whatever Allah wills.
(29-05-2025, 05:03 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]The questions are meant to make you think. So yes, I will repeat them when the opportunity arises. 

Alzheimer is genetic so yes, I fear I will get it too. I am a programmer and at 60+, I am still actively doing coding all the time, and that, according to some, is one way to prevent Alzheimer. But I don't know, and I submit to whatever Allah wills.

Best is u stop repeating same questions over n over again
(29-05-2025, 05:21 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Best is u stop repeating same questions over n over again

No, I won't.

Big Grin
(29-05-2025, 05:22 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]No, I won't.

Big Grin
Talk to the walls loh it can hears u.
(29-05-2025, 05:23 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Talk to the walls loh it can hears u.

I prefer talking to you.
(29-05-2025, 05:25 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]I prefer talking to you.

I don’t know why even strangers in public likes to tell me their story
Few days ago an old woman wanted to follow me, she got maid
I asked her aunty where are u gg?
I so ill mannered u better Siam Ho!
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