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(06-07-2025, 07:22 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]According to the zionists, Hamas killed women and children. But we don't have much evidence for that because the zionists don't allow international investigators to look into the evidence. We already know the zionists are great liars. 

Having said that, I don't dismiss the possibility of Hamas committing war crimes.

So Hamas are a bunch of angels..what kind of evidences do you need? You don trust credible reports?

OK, noted!
(06-07-2025, 07:24 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]The zionists are ILLEGALLY occupying other people's land. That is unlawful under international law.

And no, I don't believe the zionists when they made that claim of Hamas using hospitals as military bases. They made that up just so they could destroy the hospitals. The zionists are known liars.

Enter the holy land which Allah has ordained for you; and do not turn back for then you will turn about losers. “O my people! Enter the holy land (Palestine) which Allah has assigned to you, and turn not back (in flight) for then you will be returned as losers...
(06-07-2025, 07:25 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]So Hamas are a bunch of angels..what kind of evidences do you need? You don trust credible reports?

OK, noted!

Did you even read what I wrote?
(06-07-2025, 07:27 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Enter the holy land which Allah has ordained for you; and do not turn back for then you will turn about losers. “O my people! Enter the holy land (Palestine) which Allah has assigned to you, and turn not back (in flight) for then you will be returned as losers...

Do you think Allah was speaking about the European zionists?
(06-07-2025, 07:29 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Do you think Allah was speaking to the European zionists?

Are they all Allah's people?
(06-07-2025, 07:30 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Are they all Allah's people?

Who is "O my people" referring to in that Quranic verse you quoted?
(06-07-2025, 07:27 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Did you even read what I wrote?

Of cos, you said I do not have much evidences because Israel does not allow news to filter out...

But hello..this is a big news..why would Israel hide it!
(06-07-2025, 07:32 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Who is "O my people" referring to in that Quranic verse you quoted?

The Jews .Allah has always favored the jews!
(06-07-2025, 07:32 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Of cos, you said I do not have much evidences because Israel does not allow news to filter out...

But hello..this is a big news..why would Israel hide it!

Why didn't they allow any international investigators to examine the evidences of Oct 7?
(06-07-2025, 07:34 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Why didn't they allow any international investigators to examine the evidences of Oct 7?

Why do you need to investigate the Zionists when Hamas had already admitted to the attack
(06-07-2025, 07:33 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]The Jews .Allah has always favored the jews!

"O my people" refers to the children of Israel, the descendants of Prophet Jacob, pbuh.

Do you think the European zionists are the descendants of Prophet Jacob?
(06-07-2025, 07:36 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Why do you need to investigate the Zionists when Hamas had already admitted to the attack

Did Hamas admit to beheading babies as alleged by the zionists?
(06-07-2025, 07:37 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]"O my people" refers to the children of Israel, the descendants of Prophet Jacob, pbuh.

Do you think the European zionists are the descendants of Prophet Jacob?

They are the Jews isnt it! * Eyes roll up*
OK..the European Zionists are not descendants of Jacob..but white Ashkenazi Europeans insist that they are the descendants of Jacob...

I'm not from any lineage but I'm a christian
(06-07-2025, 07:38 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Did Hamas admit to beheading babies as alleged by the zionists?

No...I believe that Hamas still have some integrity..
Many also believe so
(06-07-2025, 07:29 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Do you think Allah was speaking about the European zionists?

So according to the verses ..it is a historical and scriptural reference concerning their commanded entry into the Holy Land (Palestine), which was promised to them by Allah...
(06-07-2025, 07:07 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Many times I've already told you. We believe Allah revealed the Torah and the Injeel. 

Do we have the Torah and the Injeel today? No, we don't. 

It is as simple as that but you don't seem to be able to grasp it.

I don believe you...I believe in what Allah said Big Grin
He said it is with the christians and many moslems have came forward to say that the injil is indeed the 4 gospels ..

The Jews have the Torah for thousands of years yet you said they never have it Big Grin no wonder Allah is disappointed with you lot...
(06-07-2025, 06:13 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]You don't seem to read very well. I have already said that our Prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم told us not to believe or disbelieve the Jewish scriptures, and yet you insist that our Prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم requires us to believe in them. 

That's arrogance, telling us that you know better the teachings of our Prophet صلي الله عليه وسلم, than all the Muslims.
Means
He was illiterate so he was not sure whether the scriptures were  true or false
(06-07-2025, 07:37 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]"O my people" refers to the children of Israel, the descendants of Prophet Jacob, pbuh.

Do you think the European zionists are the descendants of Prophet Jacob?
Should be from Jacob 
Esau was against Jacob 
the Zionist supports Israel so can’t be from Esau 
Esau gen are those malekites n Palestine who were always giving trouble to Israelites
(06-07-2025, 07:49 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]So according to the verses ..it is a historical and scriptural reference concerning their commanded entry into the Holy Land (Palestine), which was promised to them by Allah...

Did God say that if the Israelites didn't obey God, a curse would be on them instead?

Did Jesus warn the Israelites that the kingdom would be taken away from them and given to another nation?

Did the Israelites heed the warning?
(06-07-2025, 08:05 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]I don believe you...I believe in what Allah said Big Grin
He said it is with the christians and many moslems have came forward to say that the injil is indeed the 4 gospels ..

The Jews have the Torah for thousands of years yet you said they never have it Big Grin no wonder Allah is disappointed with you lot...

Again, showing your arrogance. Are there any Muslim scholars who say that the words of the author of Luke are the Injeel?

I never said the Jews don't have scriptures. I only say we don't have the Torah that was given to Prophet Moses pbuh.
(06-07-2025, 09:52 AM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Should be from Jacob 
Esau was against Jacob 
the Zionist supports Israel so can’t be from Esau 
Esau gen are those malekites n Palestine who were always giving trouble to Israelites

Are the Israelites the enemies of Jesus?
(06-07-2025, 02:16 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Are the Israelites the enemies of Jesus?
Those unbelievers from all kinds of people
(06-07-2025, 07:42 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not from any lineage but I'm a christian

You're a Christian because you felt something in that room with the priests.
(06-07-2025, 02:18 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Those unbelievers from all kinds of people

Two sides are fighting. One side reveres and loves Jesus. The other side curses and hates Jesus.

Which side would you favor?
(06-07-2025, 02:23 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Two sides are fighting. One side reveres and loves Jesus. The other side curses and hates Jesus.

Which side would you favor?

Favorite which side got advantages meh 
Jesus  said love your Neighbour n bless your enemies
(06-07-2025, 02:25 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Favorite which side got advantages meh 
Jesus  said love your Neighbour n bless your enemies

The logical answer is the side that loves and reveres Jesus but you cannot bring yourself to give that answer.

Why?
(06-07-2025, 02:25 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Favorite which side got advantages meh 
Jesus  said love your Neighbour n bless your enemies

Did Jesus say love or bless your enemies?
(06-07-2025, 02:29 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Did Jesus say love or bless your enemies?
Matthew 5 -43
(06-07-2025, 02:28 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]The logical answer is the side that loves and reveres Jesus but you cannot bring yourself to give that answer.

Why?
Ill mannered Moslem
U purposely want to attack me I know
(06-07-2025, 02:18 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]You're a Christian because you felt something in that room with the priests.
U r a Moslem because u felt your allah presence ?
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