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(18-07-2025, 09:56 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]I know the moslems general concensus but I want to hear it from your mouth

My answer is simple. Wallahu 'alam.

(18-07-2025, 09:58 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]He knows what I will say  so he refuses to give me an answer..

He is a Coward Loh 

Ill bred pachik can use your brain if u have one n think out of the box

In Jewish tradition, the Israelites are considered God's chosen people, primarily due to the covenant established with Abraham and the subsequent covenant at Mount Sinai. This concept is deeply rooted in the Hebrew Bible, which describes the Israelites as a "holy people" and a "special treasure" to God. While the idea of chosenness is central to Jewish identity, its interpretation and application have been subjects of ongoing discussion and debate.

(18-07-2025, 09:58 PM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]My answer is simple. Wallahu 'alam.

Next time when I see a moslem...I will ask him isaac or ishmael? The Bible says Isaac, the moslems go with Ishmael...

Where in the Bible and the Quran does it says that descendants of Ishmael need to be circumcised?

(18-07-2025, 10:08 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Next time when I see a moslem...I will ask him isaac or ishmael? The Bible says Isaac, the moslems go with Ishmael...

Where in the Bible and the Quran does it says that descendants of Ishmael need to be circumcised?

Don’t have,pachik clever to lie that circumcition is included in the Ten Commandments
Yesterday I posted the answer he dare not reply back.

(18-07-2025, 09:59 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]He is a Coward Loh 

He is so scare to give an answer that I doubt he will want to die a honorable death in the battle field

(18-07-2025, 10:09 PM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]He is so scare to give an answer that I doubt he will want to die a honorable death in the battle field

Never heard him say serve army bef 
He don’t even  know how to carry a rifle,how to fight in the battle field ?
Only hide behind th screen n shoot only.
When lost he starts name callings
We know his old trick Liao 

The Bible says that Jesus represents the fullness of God's divine revelation and so there will be no more prophets giving public revelation after him. There may be seers or people God has given private revelation, like what happened at Fatima, but there will be no more public revelation or a prophet like Moses.

Gen 16-12

He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.”

https://youtube.com/shorts/m_JRLlPn5Do?s...KYpi3q7H2c

Christianity and Christian was started by Paul, Not by Jesus 

Act 11:25:26

25 Then Barnabas went to Tarsus to look for Saul,26 and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.

Who is the Founder of Christianity? Remember Paul was Persecuting Christians
If Paul was the Christianity creator, there would have been no one for him to persecute prior to his conversion. But he was persecuting Christians.

https://youtube.com/shorts/Te8IHqIF5AU?s...6lMIxBVN5x

Arabs n moslems are liars
It’s part of their culture

(18-07-2025, 10:17 PM)Lukongsimi Wrote: [ -> ]Never heard him say serve army bef 
He don’t even  know how to carry a rifle,how to fight in the battle field ?
Only hide behind th screen n shoot only.
When lost he starts name callings
We know his old trick Liao 

He talks big only lah...he intends to join the battle when he is 100 years old!

This diversity of tradition has resulted in the diversity of opinion among the scholars of Islam. Some of them e.g. Ibn Jarir and Qadi `Iyad, have expressed the firm opinion that the son was the Prophet Isaac.

 Others, like Ibn Kathir have given the verdict that it were the Prophet Ishmael. There ware others who are un-certain and wavering, e.g. Jalaluddin Suyuti. However, a deep inquiry into the question establishes the fact that the son intended to be offered as a sacrifice was the Prophet Ishmael. The following are the arguments: ...

The simple fact is that the view that it was ismail is not unanimous among the muslim scholars. Mawdudi like most modern scholars concludes it was ismail, but this does not change the fact that difference of opinion exists..

The moslems are a confusing lot

(19-07-2025, 05:38 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]This diversity of tradition has resulted in the diversity of opinion among the scholars of Islam. Some of them e.g. Ibn Jarir and Qadi `Iyad, have expressed the firm opinion that the son was the Prophet Isaac.

 Others, like Ibn Kathir have given the verdict that it were the Prophet Ishmael. There ware others who are un-certain and wavering, e.g. Jalaluddin Suyuti. However, a deep inquiry into the question establishes the fact that the son intended to be offered as a sacrifice was the Prophet Ishmael. The following are the arguments: ...

The simple fact is that the view that it was ismail is not unanimous among the muslim scholars. Mawdudi like most modern scholars concludes it was ismail, but this does not change the fact that difference of opinion exists..

The moslems are a confusing lot

You haven't answered a simple question. Why is it important for you to know? 

Do you think we prefer it to be Ishmael instead of Isaac? Nay. Both are equally revered. Both were the sons of our patriarch Abraham. Both were chosen by Allah to be prophets. We do not say one is greater than the other.

Peace and blessings be upon the prophets mentioned.

https://youtube.com/shorts/cl983Ai98uQ?s...BUpfOjduFb


Why Issac?

New Muslim convert , Ex Christian explains

(19-07-2025, 06:47 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]You have answered a simple question. Why is it important for you to know? 

Do you think we prefer it to be Ishmael instead of Isaac? Nay. Both are equally revered. Both were the sons of our patriarch Abraham. Both were chosen by Allah to be prophets. We do not say one is greater than the other.

Peace and blessings be upon the prophets mentioned.

Why is it not important for you to know? Every small detail accumulates over time. Genesis, which predates Islam by thousands of years, claims it was Isaac, yet Islam, which emerged much later, often remains silent or offers numerous scholarly interpretations that seem to contradict earlier scriptures. Why is there this disparity?

(19-07-2025, 07:59 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]Why is it not important for you to know? Every small detail accumulates over time. Genesis, which predates Islam by thousands of years, claims it was Isaac, yet Islam, which emerged much later, often remains silent or offers numerous scholarly interpretations that seem to contradict earlier scriptures. Why is there this disparity?

It is not important because the lesson is about the obedience of Prophet Abraham, pbuh.

Now tell me. Why did you say you NEED to know?

https://youtube.com/shorts/BWuczLnpbAw?s...5jmQ8B34ei


Abraham sacrificed both the son.

New Muslim , Ex Christian explains

(19-07-2025, 07:58 AM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]https://youtube.com/shorts/cl983Ai98uQ?s...BUpfOjduFb


Why Issac?

So you believe it is Isaac? Then you must also believe that God promised his descendants the land of canaan which is modern day Palestine!

(19-07-2025, 08:01 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]It is not important because the lesson is about the obedience of Prophet Abraham, pbuh.

Now tell me. Why did you say you NEED to know?

It is not important regarding the obedience of Prophet Abraham, pbuh.

Now tell me. Why did you need to celebrate when no sacrifice was made?

(19-07-2025, 08:02 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]So you believe it is Isaac? Then you must also believe that God promised his descendants the land of canaan which is modern day Palestine!

Yes, of course. The promise to the children of Israel is in the Quran. We believe it 100%.

We also believe that the promise was given with a condition.

https://youtube.com/shorts/00bre6964eI?s...Y_NIsWBAL1


Bible Verses Quran

(19-07-2025, 08:06 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]It is not important regarding the obedience of Prophet Abraham, pbuh.

Now tell me. Why did you need to celebrate when no sacrifice was made?

We commemorate the obedience of Prophet Abraham, pbuh. We aspire to be a fraction as obedient,

We praise God who gives us rules, so we can show our obedience. The simplest one, don't eat pork.

(19-07-2025, 08:01 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]It is not important because the lesson is about the obedience of Prophet Abraham, pbuh.

Now tell me. Why did you say you NEED to know?

 Why can't I know? Why am I barred from questioning your scriptures due to its apparent incompetence?

(19-07-2025, 08:02 AM)pinkpanther Wrote: [ -> ]So you believe it is Isaac? Then you must also believe that God promised his descendants the land of canaan which is modern day Palestine!

Did you listen to that video?

(19-07-2025, 08:06 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, of course. The promise to the children of Israel is in the Quran. We believe it 100%.

We also believe that the promise was given with a condition.

The children of israel are back!
Why is it important for you to believe that the condition was not fulfilled, considering that God gathered them back?

(19-07-2025, 08:09 AM)Ali Imran Wrote: [ -> ]We commemorate the obedience of Prophet Abraham, pbuh. We aspire to be a fraction as obedient,

We praise God who gives us rules, so we can show our obedience. The simplest one, don't eat pork.

There are many events that teaches obedience 
Why is it important to celebrate something that did not happen? There was no sacrifice!

Footballers celebrate winning trophies because they have sacrifice everything to winning it....Abrahim has not sacrifice his son so what is there to celebrate? You just take the chance to perform massacre on innocent animals in the name of obedience!! Pitiful!

(19-07-2025, 08:09 AM)Hope Wrote: [ -> ]Did you listen to that video?

Yes... Abraham offered two sons, but neither of them was harmed, so that doesn't qualify as a sacrifice...

 Jesus, on the other hand, died on the cross for all humanity....that is a true sacrifice.